[Burridge]

I think my main issue these days wasn't anything to do with the lack of SA-MP development itself (heck, there's features I still haven't tried yet) but the community on my server in particular just became a toxic cesspit of despair. I spent more time being attacked (as did some of my admins) rather than wanting to do any developing (let alone I simply ran out of time to do any real development due to work and my course). I spent more time banning people than anything else.

I will begin to have more time as I soon head to University and will for a while not be holding down a job (at least not to begin with). I still sometimes have some ideas run through my head however, I simply am put off by the community itself.

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Originally Posted by Sew_Sumi Bring back the old days of the official list.

Not a bad idea to be fair. This would allow the SA-MP team to make some servers stand out more so than when on the hosted list which would surly allow for the feedback the dev team want.

[ForT]

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Originally Posted by Kalcor I saw this happening a long time ago. It's part of the reason why SA-MP development went off the rails. Even since 2007 I knew most players would eventually be playing RP. It's just the most unique aspect of Samp, something difficult to get out of other games. The problem was that most of large English role play servers weren't run by decent people. They were often attacking other servers or attacking SA-MP, so I had to throw many of them off the lists. That only left strict role playing servers like LS-RP standing. Some players tried to migrate there but it wasn't the style of RP they were looking for. The influx of light RP'ers probably drove some of the existing LS-RP players away too. I started working on my own English language light RP server after 0.3.7 was released, but eventually got burned out trying to do both scripting and SA-MP development at the same time. Some servers spent years working on their scripts and I was trying to throw something together in a few months. Anyway, if anyone out there is running, or thinking of running, a light RP server for English speaking players, I'd be happy to sponsor the server for a while with server listings, promotions here, even pay for a dedicated server if needed. Contact me if you have something in mind. Although the big Russian servers don't cause me any problems, they don't provide much feedback so I don't know which direction to take SA-MP in. That's what I rely on the English speaking servers for.

It's never too late to support new game modes that are popping up but with few features to really get quality. The community has given tons of suggestions that can help both Roleplay and new game modes, and perhaps attract back old and new players.

[[HLF]Southclaw]

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Originally Posted by Kalcor I saw this happening a long time ago. It's part of the reason why SA-MP development went off the rails. Even since 2007 I knew most players would eventually be playing RP. It's just the most unique aspect of Samp, something difficult to get out of other games. The problem was that most of large English role play servers weren't run by decent people. They were often attacking other servers or attacking SA-MP, so I had to throw many of them off the lists. That only left strict role playing servers like LS-RP standing. Some players tried to migrate there but it wasn't the style of RP they were looking for. The influx of light RP'ers probably drove some of the existing LS-RP players away too. I started working on my own English language light RP server after 0.3.7 was released, but eventually got burned out trying to do both scripting and SA-MP development at the same time. Some servers spent years working on their scripts and I was trying to throw something together in a few months. Anyway, if anyone out there is running, or thinking of running, a light RP server for English speaking players, I'd be happy to sponsor the server for a while with server listings, promotions here, even pay for a dedicated server if needed. Contact me if you have something in mind. Although the big Russian servers don't cause me any problems, they don't provide much feedback so I don't know which direction to take SA-MP in. That's what I rely on the English speaking servers for.

First of all, I'm happy to see a comment on this! I can understand the fact that the resources required to keep the list running don't outweigh the attacks. I'm probably going to see that with samp.southcla.ws and api.samp.southcla.ws soon...

I think letting the community handle listings is a solid option to be honest. Both Discord and Minecraft do this and it takes the load off of the developers and lets the listing services create their own communities and economies purely around listing, driving up the quality of service for users.

As for that RP server, I'd actually be interested in development - I've been thinking of starting a project from scratch for a while... I'll drop you a PM about it.

[adri1]

Stupid and selfish people are killing sa-mp
I guess it is the nature of the human

[adri[4]Life]

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Originally Posted by Kalcor The internet list was attacked with hundreds of fake servers. What motivation is there to bring it back when it needs constant monitoring? It's actually better for players if the server is paying to be on the list. Nobody would pay to list a fake server. It's possible the internet list could come back at some point. I'm not motivated to monitor the list after 10 years of blocking bad servers. There are people who volunteer to do it but they get bored of it quickly. It's just not something anyone wants to do.

Cause you probably hired adults, Believe me man hire a kid he will do the job without getting bored.

[Eoussama]

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Originally Posted by Kalcor I started working on my own English language light RP server after 0.3.7 was released

Is it what I think it is? I assume there is going to be an other major update like 0.3.7,
Stating that you were scripting your server AND developing SA-MP in the same time AFTER the last version was released, which was back in 2015, I can only imagine that you already made a noticeable progress during this period, man, I hope I'm not just mumbling here, and this teaser turns out to be the read deal.

[cuber]

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Originally Posted by adrianlouise Cause you probably hired adults, Believe me man hire a kid he will do the job without getting bored.

lmao what's up with that strategy

[wallee]

Favorites / Hosted / Official - new server tabs :P

- official shouldn't hold more than like 7-8 servers

[CodeStyle175]

Well to be honest samp is getting boring, with old style and also functionality sucks, lagging and stuff. And there is solution for that gta: o.
Best platform for rp format is samp, cause gta v map is too big for that.

[adri1]

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Originally Posted by wallee Favorites / Hosted / Official - new server tabs :P - official shouldn't hold more than like 7-8 servers

Official for old serious servers

[Kalcor]

I've never played GTA:V. The only GTA multiplayer that existed before SA-MP was other attempts at MP mods and the GTA2 multiplayer, which was pre-internet (LAN) gaming.

Once you take San Andreas and add SA-MP, what you end up with is something very different from GTA. I've never understood the comparisons with GTA:IV or V multiplayer.

[cuber]

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Originally Posted by Kalcor Once you take San Andreas and add SA-MP, what you end up with is something very different from GTA.

The best quote ever, lol.

[wallee]

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Originally Posted by Kalcor Once you take San Andreas and add SA-MP, what you end up with is something very different from GTA.

it is still GTA but a bigger sandbox than the original

[adri[4]Life]

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Originally Posted by adri1 Official for old serious servers

What about this:
"forum applications, Just like hosted list but instead of paying money you have to make an app that requires reps/posts etc and a volunteer will take care of it."
For internet list instead of official one, The problem of the official list is people were DDoS-ing samp for not adding their servers now people who can afford DDoS attacks can afford hosted tab which shows their servers in boths lists
Somehow re-enabling the internet list is necessary i usually pay in time for the hosted tab but this month i did after two days of its ending, because of this i lost more than 10 avg my server rank decreased and the playerbase.
There should be many servers in internet list the difference between before and now is an app is required for it.
Please kalcor do something.

[cuber]

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Originally Posted by CodeStyle175 Well to be honest samp is getting boring, with old style and also functionality sucks, lagging and stuff. And there is solution for that gta: o.

You can install new GUI's(mods, like this one http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=27796 etc.), also the
server developers can add new features to their servers(https://sampforum.blast.hk/showthread.php?tid=579978 - https://sampforum.blast.hk/showthread.php?tid=542444 - https://sampforum.blast.hk/showthread.php?tid=526345 etc.).

About the "lagging" part, that's you or the server that you're playing. If someone manages to get players, they should solve the server lag.

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Originally Posted by CodeStyle175 Best platform for rp format is samp, cause gta v map is too big for that.

"Best platform for rp format is samp" well said. The map of GTA V is quite big, but it's still nice. You can roleplay everywhere. GTA V:MP RP servers are awful, because they think roleplaying is about stealing cars, driving around and buying RPG's to explode everyone they have in front of them(no offense to anyone, even that idc about it). Basically, they have no idea what roleplaying is.

[Sneakerhead]

It's very noticeable that the English community is dying.

[iLearner]

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Originally Posted by adrianlouise What about this: "forum applications, Just like hosted list but instead of paying money you have to make an app that requires reps/posts etc and a volunteer will take care of it." For internet list instead of official one, The problem of the official list is people were DDoS-ing samp for not adding their servers now people who can afford DDoS attacks can afford hosted tab which shows their servers in boths lists Somehow re-enabling the internet list is necessary i usually pay in time for the hosted tab but this month i did after two days of its ending, because of this i lost more than 10 avg my server rank decreased and the playerbase. There should be many servers in internet list the difference between before and now is an app is required for it. Please kalcor do something.

Did u even read what kye said above, mate?

[adri[4]Life]

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Originally Posted by iLearner Did u even read what kye said above, mate?

Yes i did, What the internet list required before is just announce 1.
But an app will make big difference.

[Logic_]

I'd rather prefer to have a SA-MP client independent of the official one that's ran by a team of people who highly trust each other and make different tabs for it. Like Southclaw's or SickAttack's (which is now ran by someone else) SA-MP server list. Where they select servers to be in verified tab.

[Sew_Sumi]

You do realise that is just a launcher, right?