30.10.2019, 18:35
Is it still worth it?
30.10.2019, 18:36
I think they tried already
30.10.2019, 18:37
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They've been threatening to release "open mp" mod which is apparently compatible with sa-mp, but gets rid of me. That's what Y Less posted. It's impossible to release anything compatible with sa-mp without violating my rights. I'm guessing it was going to be something similar to that rwmp.
Anything that happens with sa-mp requires my permission. If you want full control over your own MP mod, you'd need to start from scratch, or fork an open source one and abide by the GPL or w/e. |
I remember the conflict with RWMP where you stated that if they didn't use the source code of SA-MP, there would be no issue. Is that not the case anymore?
30.10.2019, 18:38
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If you have some ideas for small improvements in 0.3.9, I'm listening.
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The perfect font would be the same one you use for live audiostreams/playlist like in the picture:
30.10.2019, 18:40
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They've been threatening to release "open mp" mod which is apparently compatible with sa-mp, but gets rid of me. That's what Y Less posted. It's impossible to release anything compatible with sa-mp without violating my rights. I'm guessing it was going to be something similar to that rwmp.
Anything that happens with sa-mp requires my permission. If you want full control over your own MP mod, you'd need to start from scratch, or fork an open source one and abide by the GPL or w/e. |
Being compatible with your mod doesn't mean it has actually anything to do with it.
30.10.2019, 18:43
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To my knowledge, open mp uses no prior code taken from SA-MP, making use of the knowledge of network protocol, packets etc. to create a compatible server. What rights of yours does it violate?
I remember the conflict with RWMP where you stated that if they didn't use the source code of SA-MP, there would be no issue. Is that not the case anymore? |
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It'll probably never get to this because this is just a game mod, and honestly, there's not enough money in it.
but honestly, any *-mp mod that uses raknet and has server scripting probably violates sa-mp's intellectual property rights in a western legal system.
30.10.2019, 18:44
Kalcor, I just don't think there is a point of 0.3.9 if you won't implement a built-in downloader system (that will allow to update the client without having to go on websites) and such. Let alone a merge with the 2 versions.
30.10.2019, 18:44
You can't copyright a packet name, not really. You can the overall functionality, but if I could copyright my Python class name would that make any sense in the real world? The answer is no
30.10.2019, 18:45
30.10.2019, 18:45
Not sure if you can copyright packet names, but the scripting API is also created anew and redeveloped. Is this feud really caused only by the fact that CreateObject, CreateVehicle, OnPlayerConnect etc. are all protected names? If that is the case, you might find other projects not even remotely related to SA-MP violating your copyright.
30.10.2019, 18:48
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Not sure if you can copyright packet names, but the scripting API is also created anew and redeveloped. Is this feud really caused only by the fact that CreateObject, CreateVehicle, OnPlayerConnect etc. are all protected names? If that is the case, you might find other projects not even remotely related to SA-MP violating your copyright.
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I can't create a movie with Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader.
30.10.2019, 18:50
Obviously. But I doubt that they would use 100% all the same names. And no, you cant copyright a set of general words (Such as OnPlayerConnect)
30.10.2019, 18:52
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If you see all the same names, yeah, it's plagiarism.
I can't create a movie with Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. |
They created a Mod that is compatible with SaA:MP (but doesn't actually use SA:MP's code)
30.10.2019, 18:53
If you open source it we can all go to prison together bro
30.10.2019, 18:53
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Obviously. But I doubt that they would use 100% all the same names. And no, you cant copyright a set of general words (Such as OnPlayerConnect)
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If you're using a lot of the same terms with similar intentions for the same, or a similar game then it would probably be seen as plagiarism.
30.10.2019, 18:56
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It was probably a bad example. The terms such as "OnPlayerConnect" are vast terms. They're going to be used often because of their ease. For example, you wouldn't call it "OnPlayerConnectToServer" just to avoid copyright.
If you're using a lot of the same terms with similar intentions for the same, or a similar game then it would probably be seen as plagiarism. |
30.10.2019, 19:05
I'm not claiming to own "OnPlayerConnect." But there'd be a point where so many names are copied, that you could say this work is derived from another work.
This is all theoretical discussion. But I feel confident saying that any client or server compatible with sa-mp would necessarily have to violate our copyright, and therefore "open mp" would have to ask my permission.
This is all theoretical discussion. But I feel confident saying that any client or server compatible with sa-mp would necessarily have to violate our copyright, and therefore "open mp" would have to ask my permission.
30.10.2019, 19:07
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I'm not claiming to own "OnPlayerConnect." But there'd be a point where so many names are copied, that you could say this work is derived from another work.
This is all theoretical discussion. But I feel confident saying that any client or server compatible with sa-mp would necessarily have to violate our copyright, and therefore "open mp" would have to ask my permission. |
30.10.2019, 19:07
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I'm not claiming to own "OnPlayerConnect." But there'd be a point where so many names are copied, that you could say this work is derived from another work.
This is all theoretical discussion. But I feel confident saying that any client or server compatible with sa-mp would necessarily have to violate our copyright, and therefore "open mp" would have to ask my permission. |
30.10.2019, 19:09
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I'm not claiming to own "OnPlayerConnect." But there'd be a point where so many names are copied, that you could say this work is derived from another work.
This is all theoretical discussion. But I feel confident saying that any client or server compatible with sa-mp would necessarily have to violate our copyright, and therefore "open mp" would have to ask my permission. |
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