[03:11:11] [S: 87] Jesse_James: Bakr, do you know anything about the OSI model?
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[03:11:52] [S: 123] Jesse_James: Do you know how to set up a network?
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[03:13:36] [S: 51] Jesse_James: Bakr, saying you need to know every detail to script is like saying
[03:13:41] [S: 56] Jesse_James: you need the OSI model to setup a network
// Which by the chat log, you'll be able to see that knowing "every detail" is a huge exaggeration

// After a few minutes in the server...
[02:49:19] [S: 114] Jesse_James: he gave us almost a full script in a very short time

[02:49:26] [S: 19] Bakr: Downloaded.

[02:49:29] [S: 123] Jesse_James: nope

[02:49:30] [S: 141] Confucius: That would indicate bug-prone

[02:49:35] [S: 129] Jesse_James: He is doing bug testing now

[02:49:38] [S: 30] Bakr: How long is this short time?

[02:49:41] [S: 135] Jesse_James: he's rather efficient
[02:49:54] [S: 146] Jesse_James: Bakr, under 12 hours and its 40000 lines

[02:49:58] [S: 47] Bakr: ...

[02:50:03] [S: 171] Confucius: D/loaded

[02:50:12] [S: 162] Jesse_James: I sat next to him as he did it -_-

[02:50:13] [S: 60] Bakr: It's not even possible to type that many lines of code in 12 hours.

[02:50:18] [S: 65] Bakr: No, you didn't.

[02:50:22] [S: 171] Jesse_James: wanna bet?s

[02:50:23] [S: 69] Bakr: He probably edited a few things, at most.

[02:50:25] [S: 71] Bakr: Yes.

[02:50:34] [S: 80] Bakr: You CANNOT make that much code in 12 hours.

[02:50:39] [S: 84] Bakr: It's humanly impossible.

[02:50:43] [S: 189] Jesse_James: Maybe if you have a life

[02:50:44] [S: 207] Confucius: I don't even know who Bakr is, but I suddenly like him.

[02:50:44] [S: 46] Kane_Griffin: it's been done

[02:50:51] [S: 52] Kane_Griffin: I've been on Skype with these guys as he did it

[02:50:52] [S: 95] Bakr: Kane, no.

[02:51:03] [S: 207] Jesse_James: Bakr, if you knew this guy

[02:51:06] [S: 108] Bakr: Jesse.

[02:51:12] [S: 113] Bakr: ****** couldn't even make code like that.

[02:51:30] [S: 231] Jesse_James: who is that?

[02:51:38] [S: 136] Bakr: You really need to read the SA:MP Forum.

[02:51:49] [S: 146] Bakr: ******, the guy who has released dozens of helpful libraries to make code more simplistic

[02:51:55] [S: 146] Bakr: Unleashing methods to make code easier to create.

[02:52:23] [S: 18] Bakr: Sscanf unformatter, Whirlpool encryption plugin, YSI - ****** Script Includes to name a 

[02:52:26] [S: 20] Bakr: few.

[02:52:38] [S: 31] Bakr: And I'm telling you, it's not possible to create that much code in 12 hours.

[02:52:47] [S: 39] Bakr: Not even 10k lines of code.

[02:52:51] [S: 45] Jesse_James: Bakr, and they said it was impossible to lie

[02:52:53] [S: 46] Jesse_James: fly*

[02:53:00] [S: 50] Bakr: If you believe otherwise, you're ignorant.

[02:53:14] [S: 5] Kane_Griffin: There's belief, and then, you know, witnessing it.

[02:53:16] [S: 64] Bakr: Oh, my bad, he probably used copy and paste.

[02:53:25] [S: 75] Jesse_James: No, he used Amp

[02:53:34] [S: 73] Bakr: Amp?

[02:53:39] [S: 75] Jesse_James: Energy drink

[02:54:04] [S: 0] Bakr: Get real for a minute, as you know nothing about coding.

[02:54:20] [S: 0] Bakr: It would take 12 hours to make a fully functional, working ~5k lines of code.

[02:54:23] [S: 0] Jesse_James: Get real as you do not know this guy

[02:55:50] [JOINED] Frank_Petrov

[02:56:14] [S: 100] Jesse_James: there is your copy and paster -_-

[02:56:21] [S: 98] Bakr: Or downloader.

[02:56:27] [S: 30] Frank_Petrov: Computer I am.

[02:56:41] [S: 124] Jesse_James: Bakr, not all of us need the internet to do every little thing

[02:56:49] [S: 151] Kane_Griffin: And you call us ignorant.

[02:56:58] [S: 131] Bakr: Of course, because I can type 40k lines in 12 hours.

[02:57:06] [S: 139] Bakr: Which happens to be humanly possible.

[02:57:11] [S: 151] Jesse_James: Saying that it is humanly impossible is like saying it's impossible to pull a car 

[02:57:14] [S: 146] Bakr: Oh my bad, unless you just created 40k lines worth of variables.

[02:57:15] [S: 73] Frank_Petrov: becuase you can't do something makes no one be able to?

[02:57:20] [S: 157] Confucius: Now I know who Bakr is

[02:57:30] [S: 160] Bakr: Frank, get over your gloreous self.

[02:57:52] [S: 106] Frank_Petrov: im not saying im the best, im just trying to figure out why you think its impossi

[02:58:11] [S: 198] Bakr: Let me give you a little questionair.

[02:58:22] [S: 208] Bakr: Which libraries and plugins did you use to create this script?

[02:58:29] [S: 241] Kane_Griffin: Shit is going down.

[02:59:15] [S: 181] Frank_Petrov: well which are you talking about first off?

[02:59:31] [S: 269] Bakr: The, apparently, 40k script you created in 12 hours.

[02:59:33] [S: 197] Frank_Petrov: because there are both the pawno libraries and the sa-mp libraries

[02:59:41] [S: 278] Bakr: LOL.

[02:59:48] [S: 285] Bakr: There are no Pawno libraries...

[02:59:53] [S: 215] Frank_Petrov: or includes, whichever you wish to call them

[03:00:03] [S: 298] Bakr: Pawno is a simple text editor with syntax highlighting and a in-line compiler.

[03:00:11] [S: 305] Bakr: PAWN is the language used to created scripts in SA:MP.

[03:00:19] [S: 312] Bakr: You already depressed me.

[03:00:41] [S: 332] Bakr: And secondly, if you're using <a_samp> include, which I presume you are

[03:00:51] [S: 341] Bakr: That would include the includes provided by CompuPhuse.

[03:00:59] [S: 349] Bakr: The company that produced PAWN language.

[03:01:03] [S: 380] Kane_Griffin: Heated Argument Barry, I wouldn't speak right now xD

[03:01:21] [S: 368] Bakr: So now tell me, which libraries and plugins did you use?

[03:01:32] [S: 372] Bakr: I would love to visit this server and prove it's Vortex Roleplay, or something similar.

[03:01:42] [S: 298] Frank_Petrov: pawn was created by compuphase yes, but the pawno version used for sa-mp is not t

[03:02:01] [S: 0] Bakr: The Pawno version? Let me get this clear:

[03:02:14] [S: 0] Jesse_James: I have an ida

[03:02:14] [S: 0] Bakr: PAWNO IS A TEXT EDITOR, NOT THE LANGUAGE.

[03:02:14] [S: AFK] Jesse_James: Frank, put the server up on hamachi

[03:02:15] [S: AFK] Bakr: PAWN is the language.

[03:02:20] [S: 15] Frank_Petrov: I KNOW

[03:02:31] [S: 26] Confucius: Am I the only non-scripter here?

[03:02:33] [S: 14] Bakr: You clearly don't, if you claim them to be Pawno includes.

[03:02:34] [S: AFK] Crimson: THATS NOT WHAT YOU JUST SAID

[03:02:44] [S: 0] Kane_Griffin: I know nothing of wtf they're talking about Conf

[03:02:49] [S: 39] Frank_Petrov: but pawno uses a modified language of pawn than the original PAWN language

[03:02:57] [S: 32] Bakr: No, Pawno does not use anything.

[03:03:05] [S: 32] Bakr: And no, the PAWN language is not edited.

[03:03:07] [S: 24] Crimson: Heres a better idea

[03:03:10] [S: 32] Bakr: GOOD GOD MAN LEARN YOUR STUFF.

[03:03:32] [S: 78] Frank_Petrov: yes it does. pawno uses the pawn language. it is made for pawn.

[03:03:43] [S: 28] Bakr: Pawno was made for SA:MP.

[03:04:16] [S: 117] Frank_Petrov: pawno was not MADE for sa-mp.  it was remade for sa-mp

[03:04:29] [S: 70] Bakr: No, Pawno was made by Sacky, for the SA:MP community...

[03:04:30] [S: 85] Crimson: ...pawno is a script editor

[03:04:35] [S: 75] Bakr: I believe it was Sacky, anyway.

[03:04:39] [S: 6] Crimson: it was

[03:04:45] [S: 13] Confucius: You guys get med over things that aren't even relevant to the argument you originally

[03:04:50] [S: 17] Confucius: had

[03:04:55] [S: 93] Bakr: Confucius, he said he had made this script.

[03:05:08] [S: 105] Bakr: If he doesn't even know the diffference between the language  that he made this 40k scrip

[03:05:09] [S: 34] Confucius: And now you are discussing the creators of PAWN

[03:05:14] [S: 38] Confucius: Slightly irrelevant, no?

[03:05:19] [S: 114] Bakr: in 12 hours for, then how could he possibly code that quickly?

[03:05:41] [S: 15] Jesse_James: Bakr, just because a pilot doesn't know every detail of his plane, does that mean h

[03:05:47] [S: 21] Jesse_James: he can't fly it perfectly?

[03:05:51] [S: 71] Confucius: $10 says it's a godfather clone. Case closed.

[03:06:00] [S: 150] Bakr: Jesse, he doesn't know the differences between those.

[03:06:08] [S: 157] Bakr: He doesn't know what libraries/includes, plugins are.

[03:06:10] [S: 11] Barry: shit

[03:06:21] [S: 51] Jesse_James: Bakr, do you?

[03:06:23] [S: 171] Bakr: I doubt he knows what any SQL language, like MySQL/SQLite is.

[03:06:29] [S: 16] Frank_Petrov: why would i have to? im not developing the pawno engine

[03:06:30] [S: 177] Bakr: Just besides dini, of course.

[03:06:47] [S: 192] Bakr: Frank....

[03:06:52] [S: 196] Bakr: You use libraries in your script...

[03:07:04] [S: 207] Bakr: Libraries are things that provide you functions, like a_samp library

[03:07:10] [S: 52] Frank_Petrov: what do you use most bakr? dcmd, zcmd, ycmd, or strcmd?

[03:07:26] [S: 226] Bakr: Firstly, it's strcmp, which is a function, not a command processor.

[03:07:37] [S: 237] Bakr: It's a function to compare strings, just so happen to be used a long in OnPlayerCommandTe

[03:07:52] [S: 237] Bakr: And I use YCMD, as it's the fastest command processor and offers the most funtions.

[03:08:10] [S: 14] Bakr: Do you even know the different between a function and callback?

[03:08:21] [S: 23] Bakr: Do you know what a filterscript, library, plugin is?

[03:08:27] [S: 23] Bakr: Hell, do you even know what a source code is?

[03:09:00] [S: 149] Frank_Petrov: yeah, a source code is the most basic version of something that can be edited

[03:09:07] [S: 26] Bakr: -_-

[03:10:04] [S: 75] Bakr: Now, Frank, tell me the includes you used.

[03:10:06] [S: 78] Bakr: Please, tell me.

[03:10:10] [S: 82] Bakr: List them all.

[03:10:14] [S: 86] Bakr: I

[03:10:17] [S: 218] Frank_Petrov: for which? pawno or sa-mp?

[03:10:19] [S: 41] Jesse_James: Question?

[03:10:20] [S: 91] Bakr: ...

[03:10:31] [S: 100] Bakr: I could've sworn we went over this already, multiple times..

[03:10:34] [S: 103] Bakr: ANYWAY, list them all.

[03:10:35] [S: 55] Jesse_James: If you are so convinced it's a rip off, why don't you just take his offer?

[03:10:36] [S: 105] Bakr: Impress me.

[03:10:57] [S: 1] Bakr: Jesse, if he can't even list a couple libraries, then he obviously can't even write code.

[03:10:57] [S: 254] Frank_Petrov: you mean the fact that pawno and sa-mp both use different includfes? >.>

[03:11:04] [S: 7] Bakr: FRANK

[03:11:07] [S: 10] Bakr: PAWNO IS A TEXT EDITOR

[03:11:11] [S: 14] Bakr: HOW CAN IT USE INCLUDES

[03:11:11] [S: 87] Jesse_James: Bakr, do you know anything about the OSI model?

[03:11:21] [S: 275] Frank_Petrov: bakr can you do something for me?

[03:11:25] [S: 25] Bakr: Please tell me, how a text editor can use includes.

[03:11:35] [S: 108] Jesse_James: Bakr, do you about the OSI model?

[03:11:46] [S: 45] Bakr: No..

[03:11:52] [S: 123] Jesse_James: Do you know how to set up a network?

[03:12:03] [S: 59] Bakr: Frank, I'm still waiting for those includes.

[03:12:06] [S: 311] Frank_Petrov: go into the folder that has your pawn stuff in it and tell me why it has

[03:12:11] [S: 132] Jesse_James: Bakr, do you know how to set  up a network?

[03:12:15] [S: 311] Frank_Petrov: an includes folder if it doesnt use them

[03:12:40] [S: 0] Bakr: Frank - Pawno doesn't use the includes. The scripts you produce (which can be inside pawno 

[03:12:41] [S: 0] Bakr: use the includes

[03:12:45] [S: 6] Jesse_James: Bakr, just answer yes or no and I'll explain

[03:12:52] [S: AFK] Bakr: The script you create uses the includes.

[03:12:55] [S: AFK] Bakr: Not the editor.

[03:13:05] [S: AFK] Frank_Petrov: pawno uses the includes to understand what it is compiling

[03:13:06] [S: 25] Crimson: Jesse anwser this

[03:13:11] [S: 29] Jesse_James: Can you set up a network?

[03:13:11] [S: 30] Crimson: Can you script or program?

[03:13:14] [S: 31] Jesse_James: Patrick, gtfo

[03:13:16] [S: 16] Bakr: NO, FRANK.

[03:13:20] [S: 38] Crimson: Who is patrick?

[03:13:22] [S: 21] Bakr: That would be the compiler understanding.

[03:13:24] [S: 42] Crimson: I really want to know

[03:13:35] [S: 13] Frank_Petrov: the compiler is pawno >.>

[03:13:36] [S: 51] Jesse_James: Bakr, saying you need to know every detail to script is like saying

[03:13:39] [S: 37] Bakr: No it is not.

[03:13:41] [S: 56] Jesse_James: you need the OSI model to setup a network

[03:13:47] [S: 44] Bakr: The compiler is in-line into the pawno program.

[03:13:54] [S: 50] Bakr: Jesse, I'm not saying that.

[03:13:58] [S: 71] Jesse_James: Yes, you are

[03:13:59] [S: 54] Bakr: I'm asking about the VERY BASICS.

[03:14:07] [S: 79] Jesse_James: the OSi is the very basics of a netowrk

[03:14:08] [S: 63] Bakr: Not even close. If you have no idea what you're talking about, butt off.

[03:14:09] [S: 81] Jesse_James: name all the layers

[03:14:17] [S: 70] Bakr: Did I ever claim to be into networking?

[03:14:25] [S: 78] Bakr: If so, please quote me, or kindly remove yoursel ffrom the conversation.

[03:14:27] [S: 96] Jesse_James: No, but you calim to be able to setup a network

[03:14:40] [S: 109] Confucius: I think this discussion has gone far enough. Argue somewhere else.

[03:14:43] [S: 94] Bakr: If you understood the questions I'm asking, you'd know it has nothing to do with that comp

[03:14:55] [S: 121] Jesse_James: what conf said

[03:15:25] [S: 131] Bakr: Fine, just don't claim someone can create a script when they can't even list a few lines 

[03:15:28] [S: 133] Bakr: #include <a_samp>
// End of chat log, as I was kicked

[02:53:16] [S: 64] Bakr: Oh, my bad, he probably used copy and paste.

[02:53:25] [S: 75] Jesse_James: No, he used Amp

[02:53:34] [S: 73] Bakr: Amp?

[02:53:39] [S: 75] Jesse_James: Energy drink

[02:54:04] [S: 0] Bakr: Get real for a minute, as you know nothing about coding.