Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community

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Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - Pottus - 30.01.2014

Any pansy can get 2700 kills

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - stormchaser206 - 30.01.2014

I am half and half with legacy.
I like that now you have the option to toggle it,
but some servers won't inform that they have changed it and you will have to keep switching shooting styles between different servers.

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - eider - 31.01.2014

It may start mass migration from servers with new sync to servers with lag shot. In this case server owners would be forced to enable legacy mode.

Avaliable best solutions:

a) shotcompmode as a rule, so players would know before connecting to server
b) shotcompmode as a rule + read-only and decreasing maxplayers to 32 if legacy mode enabled (ultimate solution because based on beta testers opinions this mode is supposed to be only for clan servers, and clan servers don't need more than 32 players).

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - [J] - 31.01.2014

-1 for b. Why should it be limited?

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - StreetGT - 31.01.2014

Lets see RC5.

@carrot, love your signature haha

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - Zhao - 31.01.2014

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Originally Posted by eider

It may start mass migration from servers with new sync to servers with lag shot. In this case server owners would be forced to enable legacy mode.

Avaliable best solutions:

a) shotcompmode as a rule, so players would know before connecting to server
b) shotcompmode as a rule + read-only and decreasing maxplayers to 32 if legacy mode enabled (ultimate solution because based on beta testers opinions this mode is supposed to be only for clan servers, and clan servers don't need more than 32 players).

Great suggestion, if it's not going to be removed entirely.

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - [J] - 31.01.2014

Well I guess skinshoot/legacy on/off will be there in next update anyways, just a wild guess

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - MisterTickle - 31.01.2014

I see no reason why it could not be an option IF Kalcor can easily implement it as so. If it will make people happy to have both as an option I do not see the problem. Variety is the spice of life.

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - Niko_boy - 31.01.2014

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Originally Posted by Zhao

Great suggestion, if it's not going to be removed entirely.

i would partially agree with 3rd version because some of DM server would want to stick with lead aim sync and they would need some of max 200 slots probably. so yeah 32 is quite less.

also stop shitting around already. its great SAMP Team had made it for an entire choice to switch b/w both modes and yeah Server RULE should be added to client (and even servers should add [Lead Aim] to their servers maybe, or whatever, maybe this is a stupid idea though :P )

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - DiDok - 31.01.2014

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Originally Posted by eider

It may start mass migration from servers with new sync to servers with lag shot.

Finally someone said what this butthurt is really about...

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - Austin - 05.02.2014

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Originally Posted by Manyula

But apart from such polls, I'm just asking myself what would have happened if there was the skinshot sync all along. How would the different communities have evolved? Would they have claimed to have lead aiming?

Sometimes what makes a mod so great is the bugs that make gameplay like this in the first place.

A racing game that was created in 1996 had backwards physics due to programming mistakes that allowed for bouncing off walls to be a way of maintaining speed rather than slowing you down. It is still played today due to this 'bug' and is still developed today.

No poll will ever be good enough to judge whether legacy mode should stay or not, so it's pointless even having them.

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - Austin - 05.02.2014

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Originally Posted by TheZEROts

It trusts the shooting client more and keeps a better track of aim and bullets: No more playing animations for players on your screen to prevent getting shot, no more sprunkguard, no more camhacks that allow shooting behind corner, no wallhacks that allow shooting through solid objects, no more autobullets/silent aims and aimbots. That was just a few. And don't bother asking me how I know this.

Ah, yes yes, hacked client, did you shoot 14 deagle bullets into your opponent in a second? Awesome, well done, he dead.

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - ev0lution - 06.02.2014

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Originally Posted by [MM]IKKE

2. A community where several people are members of DM clans, freeroam (UGP)

Less people are neutral, but the majority is in favor of lagshooting.

As for the second community, what exactly do the people who voted for the new sync lose when it uses legacy mode? Nothing changed...

This poll is incredibly misleading because it doesn't say anything about 0.3z.

It seems to be asking players what they currently do. Considering SA-MP shooting has been broken for the past 6 years, obviously they lag shoot - there's no other way to hit players.

Tell the community that the new version of SA-MP includes lag-compensated shooting like every other game in the world, and then ask them if they would still prefer to have to lag shoot.

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Originally Posted by Austin

Yes yes, that lack of skill of judging where a hitbox is to shoot a player based on their ping.

Definitely takes less skill than shooting on the body.

[/sarcasm]

It may well be a developed skill to be able to lag shoot, but it's a skill that fundamentally relies on randomness because of shooters and victims lag to the server, as well as their framerate. Being able to hit players should not be random.

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - kurta999 - 06.02.2014

This fucking thread should be closed..

In 0.3d or c IDK, there was removed the 14ms wait in every frame. Then the game performance boost up, then it was problem, why not option to disable this and use the 14ms wait time, like in singleplayer. Now has option to restore the old lag shoting, now this is problem..

WHO ACCUSTOMED THE LAG SHOT, HE WILL USE IT. WHO HATE LAG SHOT, HE WILL USE THE NEW SHOT SYNC.

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - [MM]IKKE - 06.02.2014

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Originally Posted by ev0lution$YOLO$

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - Pottus - 09.02.2014

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Originally Posted by TheZEROts

SA-MP Devs: "Hey, we finally fixed the major lag-shoot bug!"

Most of the people in the Community: "Yaaaaay!"

Few trolls and specials: "Nooo, signor, mi laik tu kill newbs cuz thats only way i can keel, those who dun kno houw lagshhot, new playrs dun deserve chanc k mi fegt k"

*Tense drum roll*
*A wild Legacy Mode appears*

SA-MP - Bugs are not meant to be fixed, they are meant to be an option!

You really think new players stand a chance with or without legacy mode? Your as simple minded as your post they never had a chance and never will. In fact it's much worse for new players now real skillaz can rape a noob in about 2 seconds with lag compensation pretty much before they even get a chance to shoot.

Respuesta: Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - Gryphus One - 09.02.2014

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Originally Posted by [uL]Pottus

Well, despite my complete support for legacy mode, the truth is newbies stand better chances with skinshooting than with lagshooting.

Re: Respuesta: Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - Pottus - 09.02.2014

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Originally Posted by Gryphus One

Well, despite my complete support for legacy mode, the truth is newbies stand better chances with skinshooting than with lagshooting.

Bullshit. They will be dead before they even get a chance.

Re: Respuesta: Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - HeLiOn_PrImE - 09.02.2014

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Originally Posted by [uL]Pottus

Bullshit. They will be dead before they even get a chance.

Actually they stand a better chance, because most of the would be used to shooting at the skin. Lag shooting make it even harder for them to aim properly.

All that remains now for the sa-mp team to fix r-bugs, c-bugs and all that exploit shit that ruins this game. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind having a legacy mode for that crap as well.

Re: Legacy mode is bad for the SA-MP community - ReFuSeR - 10.02.2014

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Originally Posted by TheZEROts

This is actually so far from the truth it is laughable.