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Re: Is it still worth it? - HommeDieu - 30.10.2019
You are asked not to delete and change something, but rather to add something new (the same objects and skins). Why don’t you want to listen to people? In this case, this update fuck nobody needs. Why are you complicating things? You only make it worse.
Re: Is it still worth it? - IllidanS4 - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Kalcor
 CreateMenu isn't needed. I can't even remember the last time I saw it used in a server.
And there is one new native already GetPlayerCameraAimZ. |
I agree that some functions can be deprecated over time, but the reason should be an introduction of a better way to achieve the same result. There are dialogs which work quite nicely, and textdraws can indeed be used to implement menus aestethically, perhaps with less limitations than the current system has, but that requires finding or creating a new script to make it work.
CreateMenu has its limitations, but this is not the right time to remove natives. We are in a situation when there are two versions with slightly different and incompatible features, and many plugins have to supplant features missing from the base server. It's not the right time to complicate the lives of scripters by requiring them to find yet another implementation for something that used to be provided by SA-MP (and was sufficient for them). Especially if you justify it by saying that is was made by Y Less and other features made by him will follow.
Stating "I don't think it is useful" is subjective and shouldn't be a valid reason when you are creating something which should be extremely inclusive and powerful, like a library or a scripting API.
Re: Is it still worth it? - Romzes24 - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Kalcor
CreateMenu isn't needed. I can't even remember the last time I saw it used in a server.
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Re: Is it still worth it? - OstGot - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by IllidanS4
As much as I like to see the scripting API being completed, this doesn't outweigh the removal of other natives.
I agree that some functions can be deprecated over time, but the reason should be an introduction of a better way to achieve the same result. There are dialogs which work quite nicely, and textdraws can indeed be used to implement menus aestethically, perhaps with less limitations than the current system has, but that requires finding or creating a new script to make it work. CreateMenu has its limitations, but this is not the right time to remove natives. We are in a situation when there are two versions with slightly different and incompatible features, and many plugins have to supplant features missing from the base server. It's not the right time to complicate the lives of scripters by requiring them to find yet another implementation for something that used to be provided by SA-MP (and was sufficient for them). Especially if you justify it by saying that is was made by Y Less and other features made by him will follow. Stating "I don't think it is useful" is subjective and shouldn't be a valid reason when you are creating something which should be extremely inclusive and powerful, like a library or a scripting API. |
Re: Is it still worth it? - Kalcor - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Romzes24
This menu is used on many large Russian servers when changing the skin and during registration. Also, many servers use the menu in the mode of spectating on players.
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Can't someone throw together a textdraw menu system?
Re: Is it still worth it? - Max_Coldheart - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Kalcor
I feel like it's probably not secure anyway.
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Re: Is it still worth it? - Mugala - 30.10.2019
any chance give developers access to server-side .SAA? for manipulation of weapon and vehicle data.
Re: Is it still worth it? - MaisterK - 30.10.2019
If you join the dl version with the main one, I would reopen my server.
... a function to hide the hud would not be bad.
Re: Is it still worth it? - Romzes24 - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Kalcor
Can't someone throw together a textdraw menu system?
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Also, there is really not enough style for entering text.
Re: Is it still worth it? - Kalcor - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Max_Coldheart
Care to elaborate?
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But I just took a quick look at the code. The menu items are limited to 32 chars, so it's probably fine.
Re: Is it still worth it? - HommeDieu - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Kalcor
I don't want to put it back in. I feel like it's probably not secure anyway.
Can't someone throw together a textdraw menu system? |
Does it not reach you that people do not want such changes? Why are you continuing
Re: Is it still worth it? - Max_Coldheart - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Kalcor
Last time I tested it, probably 2008, it came up with garbled text.
But I just took a quick look at the code. The menu items are limited to 32 chars, so it's probably fine. |
However, it's still making life unnecessarily painful for the community members because of the relationship between you and ******. Not going to comment on this any further though, as it seems like there is no way to talk sense to you. Good luck on your journey.
Re: Is it still worth it? - Romzes24 - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Romzes24
Ok, can you improve textdraw? It is necessary to make it so that they can easily control the keyboard buttons as it was in CreateMenu, add new sprites from object models and expand the limit for displaying sprites over 100.
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Can you add cyrillic support to textdraw?
Re: Is it still worth it? - Uberanwar - 30.10.2019
Merge 0.3DL and 0.3.7. Tq
Re: Is it still worth it? - Pa4enka - 30.10.2019
I hope textdraw will not be removed?
And yet, will the CreateMenu alternative be in a new type of dialog?
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Originally Posted by Romzes24
Can you add cyrillic support to textdraw?
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Re: Is it still worth it? - BloodMaster - 30.10.2019
People are giving advice on what they want for the 0.3.9.
Please reply to them and tell them - "I think it's (not) a good idea because of this, this and this" so we can stop with the duplicates and open new discussions regarding new features.
Also consider getting a helping hand with the developing stuff.
Re: Is it still worth it? - m1n1vv - 30.10.2019
Please increase the SetPlayerAttachedObject limit. And objects with numbers are needed.
Re: Is it still worth it? - Kalcor - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Max_Coldheart
I'm not looking to argue with you, but I'd doubt it's the worst of SA-MPs vulnerabilities.
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It definitely needs to be removed from sa-mp.
Re: Is it still worth it? - Whyd - 30.10.2019
For a new version it would be nice to have new security mechanisms for queries in SA-MP, it's a problem that has been dragging for many years. If this mechanism were renewed in this version this would revive developers to create servers again in sa-mp since they would not have the concern about such specific attacks on their servers.
Re: Is it still worth it? - K4r - 30.10.2019
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Originally Posted by Kalcor
That's speculation on your part. I have the actual code right in front of me.
It definitely needs to be removed from sa-mp. |