Is it still worth it? - Printable Version

Is it still worth it? - Printable Version

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Re: Is it still worth it? - Max_Coldheart - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Chilli9434

if they asked, would they get

Haven't you followed the thread? Obviously the answer is no with the relationship of Kalcor and ******

Re: Is it still worth it? - Kalcor - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Chilli9434

if they asked, would they get

No. Because they said the entire point of the project was to get rid of me.

But I did give permission to gtasvr.ru. They've been running for 10 years or so.

Re: Is it still worth it? - Max_Coldheart - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kalcor

No. Because they said the entire point of the project was to get rid of me.

But I did give permission to gtasvr.ru. They've been running for 10 years or so.

They dont need a permission to make a multiplayer mod for GTA SA though. You didn't either.

Re: Is it still worth it? - Kalcor - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Max_Coldheart

They dont need a permission to make a multiplayer mod for GTA SA though. You didn't either.

You obviously weren't following along during 4/11. They published on their website they were going to release a mod compatible with sa-mp.

Re: Is it still worth it? - Kyle - 30.10.2019

I think this thread is starting to derail / going off topic.

I think let's concentrate on the new update.

Re: Is it still worth it? - BloodMaster - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kalcor

No. Because they said the entire point of the project was to get rid of me.

As far as I know, it wasn't to get rid of you. It was to progress the community and develop the mod further.
You can probably agree that the development was slow. Last official feature version we've got was 0.3.7, released in 2015.

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Originally Posted by Kalcor

But I did give permission to gtasvr.ru. They've been running for 10 years or so.

That website doesn't work. You probably posted a wrong link.

Re: Is it still worth it? - Max_Coldheart - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kalcor

You obviously weren't following along during 4/11. They published on their website they were going to release a mod compatible with sa-mp.

Also, I repeat myself. Being compatible doesn't mean plagiarism / copyright violation.

Re: Is it still worth it? - Chilli9434 - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Max_Coldheart

Haven't you followed the thread? Obviously the answer is no with the relationship of Kalcor and ******

if you dont ask you dont get brother

Re: Is it still worth it? - IllidanS4 - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kalcor

I'm not claiming to own "OnPlayerConnect." But there'd be a point where so many names are copied, that you could say this work is derived from another work.

This is all theoretical discussion. But I feel confident saying that any client or server compatible with sa-mp would necessarily have to violate our copyright, and therefore "open mp" would have to ask my permission.

This all but theoretical discussion has real consequences. You claim it violates your copyright but in doing so, you must prove that your intellectual work is duplicated. open mp has code made from scratch, different routines, different algorithms, different scripting API, and just so happens to be "compatible" with the current SA-MP client. Some basic names for basic concepts may be duplicated, but any project that works with a system that has "objects", "vehicles" or "weapons" is bound to do so.

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Originally Posted by Kalcor

No. Because they said the entire point of the project was to get rid of me.

The entire point of the project is to provide better server software, fix bugs, add support for other scripting languages and so on. Nobody wants to assassinate you.

You could say that plugins do the same, and indeed, there are plugins utilizing the scripting API, the network protocol etc. that were made without your permission.

Re: Is it still worth it? - Romzes24 - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kalcor

No. Because they said the entire point of the project was to get rid of me.

But I did give permission to gtasvr.ru. They've been running for 10 years or so.

Perhaps we are talking about gtasrv.ru?

Re: Is it still worth it? - Tanz - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kyle

I think this thread is starting to derail / going off topic.

I think let's concentrate on the new update.

Hello SA-MP forum moderator, unlike yourself, I believe that thread is not being derailed. The replies to this thread still are still relevant to the original question which was "Is it still worth it?".

If the forum rules thread was still around, I'm sure you could get infracted for backseat moderating.

Re: Is it still worth it? - Max_Coldheart - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kyle

I think this thread is starting to derail / going off topic.

I think let's concentrate on the new update.

What update? The removed natives? Yauza! Lets celebrate

Re: Is it still worth it? - Gforcez - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kyle

I think this thread is starting to derail / going off topic.

I think let's concentrate on the new update.

People giving their opinion, talking about what's being discussed in the topic, giving feedback and call their criticism isn't derailing.

Re: Is it still worth it? - d3Pedro - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Max_Coldheart

What update? The removed natives? Yauza! Lets celebrate

You're probably a open mp clown.
Listen mr.einstein we know you know a lot of stuff about copyrights but this thread was meant to be for the server owners and their request for small improvements, so if you're not here for that at least stop bothering with your 'funny' replies.

And to those who is saying that OPEN MP has nothing to do with samp leaked code.

Those are the people who was actually working on samp leaked code.

The people on OPen MP

Re: Is it still worth it? - Max_Coldheart - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by d3Pedro

The people on OPen MP

Well, I'm not. I know that this thread was meant for that, but it obviously hasn't been about that in like last 20 pages. Also, having same developers doesn't automatically mean copyright infringement. Thanks for contributing though, and instantly assuming I'm an "Open mp clown". Sums up your attitude also quite well.

Speaking from an objective and neutral attitude, I really can't understand how removing natives or ******'s whole work is beneficial to the community. It's pretty much causing everyone more work, as useful plugins are removed.

Re: Is it still worth it? - Tanz - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by d3Pedro

And to those who is saying that OPEN MP has nothing to do with samp leaked code.

Those are the people who was actually working on samp leaked code.

The people on OPen MP

What are you trying to prove? SA-MP is not implied in the two gyazo screenshots you have shared?

Re: Is it still worth it? - Kalcor - 30.10.2019

CreateMenu isn't needed. I can't even remember the last time I saw it used in a server.

And there is one new native already GetPlayerCameraAimZ.

Re: Is it still worth it? - Max_Coldheart - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kalcor

CreateMenu isn't needed. I can't even remember the last time I saw it used in a server.

I get removing obsolete code. However, this is a direct quote from you:

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I'd like to eventually remove everything contributed by him.

This is actually making your own community do more work than it does good to it, even though you may have some personal gripes with him. Why punish your community?

Re: Is it still worth it? - Max_Coldheart - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kalcor

It won't be punishing because anything that's actually needed by servers will be replaced.

But didn't you ban him and remove all of his plugins and contributions to the community from the forum? Or did you replace all of that in some update that I haven't just seen?

I get that anything that is NEEDED is replaced, but when you don't replace something that's not NEEDED but makes life easier, it's still punishing.

Re: Is it still worth it? - Tanz - 30.10.2019

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Originally Posted by Kalcor

It won't be punishing because anything that's actually needed by servers will be replaced.

Is the removal of class selection needed? If I recall correctly, it's not compatible with 0.3.DL/0.3.8?