[TuRkboy]

Hello guys,you know there are like 250 skins in SA-MP or maybe even more but I think some important and good ones are missing.In this topic I will show you these characters whom took places at SP Cutscenes and I will explain you why ? it will be good to add them.


1.B-dup :



The cutscenes he took place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B80h9BFQJHo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmZV9MQzlIc ( For the ones who dont want to watch the whole video,start it from 2.43 )

Information : B Dup used to be a loyal member to the Grove Street Families but began to move away from the gang and into the drug scene. Dup begins to sell drugs in Los Santos, including to Barry "Bear" Thorne, who he enslaves as his servant. Dup has Bear clean his home in Ganton. B Dup is also later heard on West Coast Talk Radio, saying "the problem in the hood is that there isn't enough drugs in the hood".

I think it will be good to add this character on SA-MP,he will be useful for ''Gangwar Servers'' ( Maybe he will take part as Grover or Ballas in Gangwar Servers ) I bet he will be also useful for RP servers,Rpers can play as drug dealer with this skin or maybe member of any gang.


2.Jose :



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbkQUO6hXYs ( For the ones who dont want to watch the full video start it from 6.36 )

Jose is a member of the Varrios Los Aztecas gang. Jose seems to be a very good friend of Cesar Vialpando, and shows him respect, as he says that Carl is lucky that Cesar has spoken of him.Jose was seen encountering and taunting Carl Johnson after a lowrider competition. After Carl pushed Cesar for kissing his sister, Jose arrives to the place and tells Carl to "fuck off", until he was stopped by Cesar himself. Cesar says that 'this is important to him'. Jose then leaves the place, saying that he is thirsty.

Well I think it will be also useful to add this character for SA-MP.Cause as you see in the information he is one of the important members of Varrios Los Aztecas,he is OG of that gang and maybe it will be good to see him in Gangwar Servers and also in RP servers.It will be good to see him fighting with Cesar against their enemies

3.Salvatore Leon :



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKs2qa6mbSc

Salvatore agrees to give the Sindacco Family $5 million to invest in Caligula's Palace, a mega-resort in Las Venturas, one third owned by each of them and the Forelli Family. Salvatore negotiates control beyond his share, such as control of the books and his choice of a supposedly neutral manager, lawyer Ken Rosenberg, that Salvatore could control

While in Las Venturas, Salvatore befriends Carl Johnson, who had worked in a car theft ring for his son Joey in Liberty City sometime between 1987 and 1992. He slowly trusts Carl with bigger and bigger tasks, leading up to him taking a flight to Liberty City to kill Marco Forelli (Original Audio was deleted in the final release of the game for unknown reasons) at the Forelli-owned Marco's Bistro. However, Carl was a partner in the rivaling Triad resort, and robbed Caligula's. Salvatore then threatens to kill Carl and anyone close to him, although it is known that he didn't carry out these threats. It is then assumed that he left the casino and moved back to Liberty City.

I think it will be also useful to add him,especially for RP servers.He can be played as ''Boss of Mafia'' or something like that.

4.Kendl Johnson :

I know this character is already added but I think it must be changed to real one.



5. 2 More Grove Members :





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bAYhqOcnP4 ( You can see them from 0.15 )

I think there isn't any information about these guys,but the thing is they look so cool and they will be useful for RP and Gangwar Servers.There will be more skins for Grove Street and its sounds good.

6.2 More Ballas Skins





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f91EEkgKPY Just watch this video from 2.36.


There are more cutscene characters ofcourse,like Mr.Ranfali,Triad Boss and Dope guy from ( guy in greens ) ''Knock The B-dup'' mission.Well I didn't add them because they are not that important I think.I choosed these skins because they have a lot of features in both Gangwar and RP modes and I think SA-MP needs something new thats why I choosed them.

Well to the guys who gonna say ''Can't you just add these characters yourself ? from Import/Export way ?'' I can ofcourse but the point isn't this.It will be better when everyone see these skins and play as them,its no matter if you change existing skins to new ones.Its nice when everyone play as them and see them.

Thanks for reading support me if you loved this idea.

[TuRkboy]

Yeah I was registered at 2008 then didn't use it for a long time.Few weeks ago I created an account ''Tengri'' but I wasn't able to post,I checked my old emails and found what was my nickname and password so here I am.

Yea I know I already saw that,but I wanted to create a topic myself cause I think my idea will be forgetten at there thats why.But if it is a rule post our suggestions then I will do it ofcourse.

[Vince]

This has been suggested before. These models can't be added because they only appear in cutscenes. They have no skeletal model, which means they can't be properly animated or instantiated as a player model.

[TuRkboy]

Hmm so why did they add last 11 skins if its hard to add cutscene Characters ? Even the last 11 characters added weren't even seen at cutscenes ?

You can see from here,https://sampwiki.blast.hk/wiki/Skins:All from 300 to 311.

As far as I know Big Bear was only appeared in Cutscenes too but he is added... also never saw the ''fat bigbear'' even in cutscenes.I think it wasn't possible in older versions of samp like you said,but I think its now possible.

Well I think these skins are really necessary for the game,I mean these skins will bring diffrent enjoy.Like, you can now RP B-dup and Big Bear at the same time,you can do more RPs with gang skins and play in gangwars with more skins.

[Matz]

Adding those skins in to the game would be nice. +Support.

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Originally Posted by Vince This has been suggested before. These models can't be added because they only appear in cutscenes. They have no skeletal model, which means they can't be properly animated or instantiated as a player model.

Skin ID 310 was supposed to be having a hat but it's removed which means some tool was used to make/edit this skin. Why not those cutscene skins cannot be made by SA:MP team using existing skin files or even from scratch?

[TuRkboy]

Yeah I think its possible to do that,maybe it wasn't possible before but its now possible.I hope sa-mp team notice this topic and add these skins.

[Beckett]

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Originally Posted by TuRkboy Hmm so why did they add last 11 skins if its hard to add cutscene Characters ? Even the last 11 characters added weren't even seen at cutscenes ? You can see from here,https://sampwiki.blast.hk/wiki/Skins:All from 300 to 311. As far as I know Big Bear was only appeared in Cutscenes too but he is added... also never saw the ''fat bigbear'' even in cutscenes.I think it wasn't possible in older versions of samp like you said,but I think its now possible. Well I think these skins are really necessary for the game,I mean these skins will bring diffrent enjoy.Like, you can now RP B-dup and Big Bear at the same time,you can do more RPs with gang skins and play in gangwars with more skins.

Roleplay doesn't depend on a skin.

[TuRkboy]

I know roleplay isn't but its a suggestion for people who wants to RP as ''B-dup'' or Salvatore Leon,or Jose from Varrios Los Aztecas.

RP depends on some skins by the way,like can you RP as a grove member with ballas skin ? Well I think adding cutscene characters is a good idea,its a diffrent thing for me but ofcourse its the sa-mp team who gonna decide it.

Plus this idea will also help GangWars, Ballas and Grove will have 2 more diffrent skins maybe B-dup can be added too and Aztecas can have Jose.It will just make game more realistic with real characters from SP.

[$Marco$]

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Originally Posted by Vince This has been suggested before. These models can't be added because they only appear in cutscenes. They have no skeletal model, which means they can't be properly animated or instantiated as a player model.

T-Bone Mendez, BigBear (fat, and skinny) are cutscene characters and their skeleton were build by the SA-MP team, meaning anything is possible.

[MP2]

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Originally Posted by $Marco$ T-Bone Mendez, BigBear (fat, and skinny) are cutscene characters and their skeleton were build by the SA-MP team, meaning anything is possible.

That is simply not correct. How would you even know that?

T-Bone appeared outside a cutscene in singleplayer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlohePKjfTU), so had a skeletal model. Big bear (both versions) were cut from the game before release, and Rockstar made gave them skeletal models. There is cut audio in the game that evidences that big bear was an NPC outside cutscenes doing missions with Carl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5f9HWTvG54

[TuRkboy]

Ow yeah Bigbear was going to appear in the game actually,it didn't happen for some reason.He had skin files so SA-MP added him.

But I think its possible to add ''Cutscene Characters'' anyways, maybe they can re-add few more random skins which are already exist in the game ( like few more ID 7 skins ) then they can download the ''cutscene skins'' file and overwrite cutscene models on them ? Like we do it from Spark Tool and IMG Editor ? I dont know if it is possible to do it from this way or not,but I am sure they can add cutscene characters if they want.And I think its will be nice,cause some cutscene characters really have effect to the game.The last skins sa-mp team added from 300-311 proves that they can add new and custom skins.

[Faris01]

Well,there were several threads about this
Most were left ignored by the STAFF
but I think it would be a great thing if the next version of samp,which is 0.4 would include these cutscene/beta
skins,we didn't reach the max number of skins,and it would have been better for Kalcor if he added these skins for 0.3.7 instead of these Cops with no belts or these Female Cops which were added only because of Feminist and Liberal reasons.

[Ashgard]

Beta no need but all from cutscenes is fun

[TuRkboy]

I hope they will add these skins I saw before there were a lot of threads about it already.Also LS-RP community ( the biggest RP in whole SAMP,has like 500 players almost everyday ) also supported this idea.SA-MP is becoming old and there must be something to keep it alive.What I am saying is SA-MP needs new stuffs and more diffrent things.

Cutscene characters are diffrent and they have effects to the game,the bad thing is I think SA-MP team doesn't think adding cutscene characters are necessary,but I saw a lot of people who support this idea.

More skin more fun..

[corne]

To be honest a few years ago I went through most of the GTA SA files and found a crap ton of skins I got to work with some small additions to an IDE (i believe) file. I posted the lines that had to be added on the forum but a moderator / admin removed my post due to nudity (which I censored now) and I didn't have a backup.


These are some of the skins I managed to get working back then. There were more I found but they mostly were lower quality skins. I probably also missed some other skins because I didnt go through all files.

I dont know whether or not these skins are cutscene ones or simply skins that were removed afterwards (never fully finished SP), but I managed to get them working.

Anyhow, never understood why they haven't been added to SA:MP so far.

[vassilis]

+1 for this !!

[IllidanS4]

The nude skins weren't added to keep the game safe for kids (strangely enough, GTA SA itself is 18+ [sarcasm]). Beside them, someone has already made fixed versions of some cutscene skins (link). You can add them easily in, just look at the "peds" section in SAMP.ide.

[HeLiOn_PrImE]

There is alerady a topic about skins and why these skins SHOULDN'T be added.
https://sampforum.blast.hk/showthread.php?tid=573128&page=5

[Crayder]

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Originally Posted by HeLiOn_PrImE There is alerady a topic about skins and why these skins SHOULDN'T be added. https://sampforum.blast.hk/showthread.php?tid=573128&page=5

I second this, and read all of my comments there.

[GreenSt4lker]

About big bear. In beta of GTA big bear had a mayor role at the end of the game. He would give a player 2 more missions before the end. You can even find text and missions files in GTA dir.