intel core-i users, you paid for two processors
#1

This is already known for more than 2 years now, but due to the nsa spying this "feature" is now seen from a different perspective.

So who of you, i3, i5 or i7 users, knew there is a second 3g network processor inside your cpu?
3g? Thats the technology inside your smartphone that allows you to access the internet anywhere, anytime. But why do you need that, you dont get any free internet or whatever?
Intel officially announced "AMT" 2011 as a huge security and maintenance improvement. You can turn your computer on and off, control and observe the cpu, even read and change system settings or access your hdd anywhere, and protect and restore it in case of theft. Your computer doesnt even need any network connection, as it all works with the wireless 3g technology. Just imagine theres a small phone inside your cpu, connected to the whole computer, that you (and anyone else with the connection data) can just call, ask it for information about the pc, or tell it to do whatever you like. In other words, whoever can connect to that chip got complete control over your computer, way more far reaching than any internet surveillance or any virus could ever reach.
This really sounds odd, doesnt it? If you believe this, 70% of all people in industry nations got access to the internet. Now pick out kids, old people, and those who dont use computers at all, basically everyone with a computer also got internet access these days (to pick a number lets say 95%). So incase people want remote control of their pc, they can do it via the internet without any limits, turning it on and off, and access to everything is absolutely possible.
Computer market, just like any market works, because it offers what people want and people need. Otherwise they wouldnt buy it, and the market would crash. Looking at the above stuff, intel created a multi-million-dollar technology, that max 5% of their customers need. And this is against all concepts of markets and marketing. If they sold a i7 version without that 3g chip, and a slightly more expensive version with that remote control chip, pretty sure noone would have bought the remote control cpu, because noone needs it. It would have been a giant fail.
But they didnt, they simply put it in every core-i cpu. And people buy these cpus because they are damn fast. This is just a giant fail, they spend millions for something that noone needs, and most people dont even know when buying a core-i.

For me, this just leaves two options. Either intel research & developement is a group of giant idiots, or someone else but the customers are actually paying for that remote control chip to compensate the developement costs. Open for discussion!


Read this (UNTRUSTED SOURCE) if you like, or just ask ****** for intel+3g.
Heres also intels official presentation of "AMT": http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/...echnology.html
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#2

http://news.techeye.net/chips/intel-...sor-conspiracy

You DO realize that the whole "3G to snoop on you" bullshit was started by conspiracy sites, right? I mean jesus christ ALEX JONES of Infowars is a participant. THAT MAN IS INSANE.

You are buying into a crazy conspiracy theory. Stop eating what you are being fed, and learn to feed yourself
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#3

Did you realize that i completely left out all that vague nsa and conspiracy stuff? The source simply is the first english one i found on ******, and is NOT my primary source, but I dont care to post german sources here.

My point just is that for a profit-orientated company like intel developing a multi-million-dollar technology that noone needs, noone wants, and noone pays for is bullshit. And intel guys are clever enough to know that it would be bullshit, so obviously theres some other kind of profit for them from this.
This is for discussing about WHAT KIND of profit this is. And im simply interested in how many guys who (passively) use this actually knew about it.

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Originally Posted by your intel respone #1
"First, Intel does not participate in government efforts to decrease security in technology, and does not include backdoors for unauthorised access into its products.
I dont give a fuck about blurry statements like this since ********, ****** and co "didnt cooperate with the nsa".
I neither use it as point against them, nor for them, i simply ignore it.


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Originally Posted by your intel response #2
"Second, the piece on vPro is based on incorrect information, assumptions and misunderstandings; it is wrong on many levels," the spokesperson said. "The underlying technology is not new and has been in place for more than 7 years."
My upper points are still valid just from the information they got on their official website. To repeat it again, it doesnt make any sense to pay for features that noone needs. If theres any valueable information in this statement, its that they are already doing for 7 years, without anyone knowing.

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When asked if consumers or customers would appreciate hidden 3G technology in Intel CPUs, the spokesperson said: "I would note that the Snowden leaks was not mentioned in the vPro article that has been circulating".
Ehm, yeah. This is what im talking about. "Do your customers like that technology?" "Noone talked about Snowden."
Ok... wait, WHAT?
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#4

I don't care, I care if my processor is working properly or not.
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#5

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http://news.techeye.net/chips/intel-...sor-conspiracy

You DO realize that the whole "3G to snoop on you" bullshit was started by conspiracy sites, right? I mean jesus christ ALEX JONES of Infowars is a participant. THAT MAN IS INSANE.

You are buying into a crazy conspiracy theory. Stop eating what you are being fed, and learn to feed yourself
He's one of them; another lost cause.
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#6

I have a i3 currently.

Seems like you could make some use of that 3G thing
eg start pc from phone.

Btw a bit scary...
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#7

Yes, I knew about it, how do you think that the new ultra books have the security thing where you can lock your pc or delete everything when you lose it?

Intel isn't stupid, it's next gen tech that they are testing out. With more dependency on mobile platforms and mobile computing, being able to control your computer from anywhere will be the next big thing.

Intel is also like Apple, they take something no one wants or needs and puts it in and raises the price. Why? Because they can, they know people will still by the chips because they are the best on the market, Ya, AMD has some nice chips as well, and at a lower price point, but they can't compare to intel performance wise, and intel has contracts with lots of name brands, Dell, HP, Samsung, etc. to sell their chips.

The title is misleading a little bit, I though this would be about it costing intel only 150$ to produce a CPU and they sell it for $300.
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#8

On teh Intel website, they say that this feature is only for the vPro ones and in case you didn't know, ony some processors of teh Core fammily are "vPro".

My Intel Core i5 3570 doesn't have vPro technologies, for exemple.

About the problem by itself, being able is not the same as doing and do you realy thing they don't spy you by any other way ?

I know i'm spied in my daily-life by some national agences but ... i just don't care because i live my life and that's all.

I don't understand why people think there are on this planet to do something or to be usefull for humanity.
No, we're alive to have fun and this fun needs money to existe and money need a job to be in your hands and you need to learn to work so we are here to have fun and to do so we have to work.
But we have to think about people who will leave after us because they will be there to have to and to have fun, they will need a good hearth.
It's a hard stuff leaving funny ... but without destroying our world.
Stop thinking there is "fun" or "work", you have to combine theses two thinks.

PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm french.
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#9

The government isnt watching you from your processor anyway, they do it from your ISP.
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#10

I didn't know about that. I currently have Intel Core i5 (3rd Gen.). Thanks for the share Mauzen.
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