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Originally Posted by Kalcor
I've been on the internet since mid-90's. I came out of the UFO/conspiracy crowd. Sites like abovetopsecret are older than Goggle. We're not big fans of internet censorship.
SA-MP was started in 2005. I'm too old to play SA-MP now. I don't want to be playing games on servers where everyone is younger than me. I keep this site online since people still want to play. The mod could be developed further but I have to rely on feedback from English server owners, and those servers aren't being developed as much anymore. GTA:SA is getting old.
People tried to say I'm censoring like utube/goggle. The difference is that utube is hosting platform, and this is a private forum. The SA-MP forum is more like a utube channel. I support channel owners right to block any commenter or links they want. If you censor from the host level, it has a chilling effect on the entire internet.
We were given permission by R* North to create MP mods for the GTA3 series. But I don't think anyone, including them, thought these mods could go on for so long. I think they'd prefer MP mods die off and players move over to GTA:O. That's why I'm not handing this mod over to someone else.
SA-MP is on the home stretch. Everyone knows it.
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Everyone hates censorship, this is only a multiplayer community and is not related to politics or SJWs at all, so that's not an excuse.
Like you said, no one can stop servers from running, not even you. So R* is not an issue.
If you really care about this, you could have posted a discussion first before doing whatever you want, and explain why do you really want to block it or remove the Screenshots / Videos board. Because after all, this community is ran by its members. You'll have to respect their opinions before yours. And I believe, someone would have provided a way much better solution than censorship.
The community aside, everyone knows SAMP is dying, but that doesn't mean you should abandon it, if you don't trust anyone else enough to let him maintain it, then you do it - at least before its completely dead like other GTA mp mods.
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I'd block utube/goggle on any site I run. I think that answers the question.
In order to post comments on utube, you need an account, and in order to get an account you need to give them your phone number.
How would you guys feel if I started asking for your phone number to post on SA-MP forum?
What about requiring phone number to play SA-MP? lol
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Edit: I removed my rant.
I'm just going to accept the fact that the services are censored here, but it doesn't mean I like it.
And I still question whether it was necessary to remove the media section like you did.
Get your intentions straight and let someone take care of the community
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Originally Posted by Kalcor
I'd block utube/goggle on any site I run. I think that answers the question.
In order to post comments on utube, you need an account, and in order to get an account you need to give them your phone number.
How would you guys feel if I started asking for your phone number to post on SA-MP forum?
What about requiring phone number to play SA-MP? lol
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Wow, congratulations
You know SAMP is just a mod right? not a big deal. 1e100's policy of requiring a phone number is great ( for me ) because there will be less ( not 100% but the most ) bot accounts in their platform
It's their product and I bet themselves are nothing without their customers, and same applies here
Oh and don't forget to block g-drive links too.
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Originally Posted by Kalcor
How would you guys feel if I started asking for your phone number to post on SA-MP forum?
What about requiring phone number to play SA-MP? lol
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This is a very good idea. I think that with this approach people will stop creating fake accounts, and there will be fewer cheaters in the game.
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Originally Posted by Kalcor
I'd block utube/goggle on any site I run. I think that answers the question.
In order to post comments on utube, you need an account, and in order to get an account you need to give them your phone number.
How would you guys feel if I started asking for your phone number to post on SA-MP forum?
What about requiring phone number to play SA-MP? lol
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I think phone number is optional, I have ****** accounts without phone number asociated
Anyway is like an email, its very easy create a fake phonenumber
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Ok it's settled then, Y_Less will run SA-MP?
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Its not about open sourcing but let some trusted people like Y_Less be in the team to improve it.
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To be completely honest, I just think it's selfish to block popular media sharing websites or refuse to open-source or hand the project over to someone else after yourself admitting it's dying. Anyone here could count thousands of players who still have a passion for samp and it's just ignorant to say we're not worth developing a script.
Why not just hand it over? You've admitted you're not interested anymore, everyone wants updates but we haven't had one in ages. I'm pretty sure we were still on 0.3 all the way back in 2010, and even then all we got was a,b,c,d,e then x and z.
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What most people don't get is SA:MP (the mod, the website & everything) is solely owned by Kalcor, he wrote it himself and updated it year after year, he owns the code and it must feel special for him to own it. You should imagine the scenario where you are working on the same project for over 10 years, no wonder for such an old game, you might get bored & sick of all the problems you face within the years, yeah sure, Kalcor got some people to own great servers and have hundreds of thousands playing, but at the end of the day it is his forum, it is his mod, it is his code. You can't force someone who solely owns something to do something you want. If he wants to let it die without releasing or giving the code to someone it's his choice, when a great platform anywhere shuts down they don't usually give away the source code. You are free to run servers or use the current versions, you'll always have that choice, but you can't force someone to work on updates for his own made mod just because you want that.
NB.: Yeah we know Kalcor makes money out of SA:MP and he always did, but you are playing it for years right? You get to own a server with the mod, right? He deserves it as someone who has maintained this community for quite so long. (Yet, you are not forced to pay for anything.)
NB.: He is also free to censor some websites because he disagrees with their agenda, this doesn't affect the gameplay you were provided, it's a forum that he owns. He might be correct about some points made about various websites, he is free to express his denial for their actions on his own website. I just see it as a way of expressing your free of speech right, just as (them)tube might treat you like a piece of garbage and just a source of information you are free to do the same with your own community by just stopping them.
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Originally Posted by ******
There are still many people who want to play, and many people who believe there is still life in the mod. There are other people qualified to take over and run things, even within the original vision and limitations of the mod. The two of us discussed this years ago and I wasn’t willing/able to at the time - but things change and I regret that decision.
Plus there is all the Russian community that is still going strong. I know you don’t have much interaction with that side, but again other people do - they are there and crying out for updates.
I know we’ve never been close, but I think I’ve proven myself more than capable and dedicated (minor hiccups excluded). On the other hand, if you want “anyone but me”, at least make it someone - I can think of a list of capable people off the top of my head to run things. If you don’t want to continue, that’s fine. No-one expects anyone to keep doing the same thing forever, but please don’t pull everything else down with you (like I did, it was a mistake).
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Why don't you BOTH develop this mod together? The community is still standing strong - the only reason why it has fell weak in the recent 1-2 years is the communication gap with Kalcor and the team.
And yes, we beg you, Kalcor. Please don't close this mod. We still play it because we love it - After all, it gave us great experiences and memories.
Regards.
