[Westingham]

Recently the SAMP server over at MT-Gaming has been experiencing some very disturbing issues where it suddenly hangs without notice, allowing connections to the login screen but nothing afterwards. The server also doesn't crash completely, meaning you have to restart the server to allow people back on and potentially face rollbacks.

After some browsing of the forums here, it was initially thought to be a flooding attack because of the long list of IP addresses we'd see in the server logs after the hang happened. However, after some further investigation a pattern was discovered. Shortly before the server would go down, a player named "con" would connect to the login screen but not to an actual character. Some small time passes and then everything goes to shit.

After some digging through our various logs, we came to the conclusion that Silentfood is attacking us for absolutely no reason other than malice. He is a former admin / former developer who has spent more time away from the server than associated with the server at this point but continues to harass us at any given chance.

The purpose of this thread is to alert other servers to his actions and to not trust him or his "services".

First off, a small sampling of his actions against the server:

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[07/04/2012 19:35:40] [join] con has joined the server (49:92.25.110.127) [07/04/2012 19:35:58] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:20314 [07/04/2012 19:36:30] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:15317 [07/04/2012 19:36:34] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:58377 [07/04/2012 19:36:40] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:53421 [07/04/2012 19:36:40] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:54827 [07/04/2012 22:26:09] [join] con has joined the server (91:92.25.110.127) [07/04/2012 22:26:18] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:49425 [07/04/2012 22:26:37] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:61220 [07/04/2012 22:26:47] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:63434 [07/04/2012 22:27:00] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:51884 [07/04/2012 22:27:02] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:54629 [07/04/2012 23:21:15] [join] con has joined the server (71:92.25.110.127) [07/04/2012 23:21:53] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:29344 [07/04/2012 23:22:13] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:63576 [07/04/2012 23:22:16] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:59596 [07/04/2012 23:22:20] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:60802 [07/04/2012 23:22:21] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:62954 [07/05/2012 02:45:16] [join] con has joined the server (28:92.25.110.127) [07/05/2012 02:45:56] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:61960 [07/05/2012 02:45:56] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:59093 [07/05/2012 02:46:32] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:55543 [07/05/2012 02:46:46] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:1092 [07/05/2012 02:46:47] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:64721 [07/05/2012 02:46:48] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:55312 [07/05/2012 17:15:31] [join] con has joined the server (115:92.25.110.127) [07/05/2012 17:15:40] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:55653 [07/05/2012 17:15:50] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:20138 [07/05/2012 17:15:58] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:1211 [07/05/2012 17:16:07] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:54718 [07/05/2012 17:16:08] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:57897 [07/05/2012 22:16:15] [join] con has joined the server (42:92.25.110.127) [07/05/2012 22:16:19] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:52852 [07/05/2012 22:16:23] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:65026 [07/05/2012 22:16:26] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:53213 [07/05/2012 22:16:26] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:63303 [07/05/2012 22:16:46] Incoming connection: x.x.x.x:29117

And the connecting of the dots:





These are not the actions of someone who should be trusted with any sort of authority or responsibility and should most definitely not be trusted with your money. Do not trust Extracontrol with your business, why risk the chance of him turning on you?





Last but not least, if anybody would be able to provide some sort of help with regard to how he is managing to hang our server from the login screen, that would be greatly appreciated. Obviously banning his IP address is one solution, but clearly there is a flaw somewhere that is being exploited.

tl;dr - Do not trust this man (http://forum.sa-mp.com/member.php?u=145645 / http://www.*******.com/silentfood) or his company (http://extracontrol.co.uk/) as he is attacking a peaceful mind-its-own-business server without reason or provocation.

[PrawkC]

Jak has also in the past released MTG's source code. (He was a scripter)

[Westingham]

This is a public warning to not trust Silentfood or his company for the reasons outlined above.

[MistaHardkill]

I used to play at MTG and was at one time a developer myself. I know how private things are there, and know how naive the owner of that community is, so I won't reveal myself as anything other than a third party.

PrawkC, you shouldn't be squawking at other people for shady activity. If I remember correctly, it was you who gave MTG's information to a friend of yours and let him destroy the database. While this "silentfood" character may have done some shady things, you have no room to talk. Keep in mind, I only know what i hear, but the consensus seems unanimous.

Westingham as well, a lot of controversy surrounded you and the possibility of tampering with forum logs etc over a grudge with some other person who probably can't be trusted. Bottom line is, trust nobody from that god forsaken, broken community full of fanboys who aren't there to roleplay, but to swing off the owners nutsack. Anyone can post screenshots, and I'm sure anyone can change logs. At least that's what I believe. Speaking of shady activity, from what I hear it is you in fact who got prawk back into MTG, and after the trouble he caused that community, you should be ashamed of yourself; but hey, y'all work together I guess. As long as you tell Kevin what he wants to hear, he'll be naive enough to believe you.

It's their own fault they have so many enemies. Horrible management, naive owner in every sense of the word who puts his faith in absolute mindless jackasses for the most part, and sits there and bans/jails his fans in game for showing appeciation.

Bottom line is, you can trust these two just as much as they say you can trust Silentfood. I don't know Silentfood in any capacity, but at the same time, I hate to see somebody ripped by scum like this who by their own standards are no better.

Keep in mind here, I never had an issue with Kevin. He's a bang up guy. He just has no clue sometimes.

#NGG

[Chenko]

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Originally Posted by MistaHardkill #NGG

I lol'd. Ddosers supporting other Ddosers.

[MistaHardkill]

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Originally Posted by Chenko I lol'd. Ddosers supporting other Ddosers.

I've never DDOS'd anyone. I'm canadian, my ISP would never let me get away with it, I assure you.

Thumbs up for monthly limits and caps. Although, I'd like to point out that what Silentfood alledgedly did is not, in any way, a DDoS. It's a long overdue for a fix exploit that's existed in SAMP for ages.

[Chenko]

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Originally Posted by MistaHardkill I've never DDOS'd anyone. I'm canadian, my ISP would never let me get away with it, I assure you. Thumbs up for monthly limits and caps.

I was talking about NGG not you personally.

As for your talk about the community I assure you it isn't as you have described it: "broken community full of fanboys who aren't there to roleplay, but to swing off the owners nutsack." The server has progressed a lot from those two or three month. My opinion is probably a little biased due to the fact of being apart of the community but it seems as if you have spent some time away from it and don't have a full picture on what its like at this point. About PrawkC, sure he made a large mistake but he owned up to his actions. He is a damn good scripter and he doesn't rage and leak the script like Silentfood.

The things you say about Westingham I have never even heard of. Sounds like some crap rumor started by someone who hates him. Anyways this thread isn't here to discuss MTG.

Silentfood has always hated MTG ever since his departure. You can probably blame most Ddos of the server on him and he leaked the script. I called this guy a friend once but he is a deceiving guy and shouldn't be trusted.

[Silentfood]

This really surprises me that I'm getting assumed to be DDoSing, or doing packet attacks against a community. I have never in my life, or even stood to thought about doing that to someone. I don't take good interest or either enjoy MTG so I have my grudges against it, but what I did wasn't a DDoS.

What you see is me enter with a system variable name, the server's script stalled and failed to continue. I worked on that code at the start Rickles, I know it's weaknesses and I was stupid to touch them. The incoming connections you see are just players trying to reconnect.

If your scripters were good enough to investigate that further, they would have seen how system variables cannot be saved with an INI system. I just don't see how this in any shape or form should be linked to Extracontrol other than to cause suffering to me and the staff that bust their asses trying to get everything sorted on the backend.

Now Extracontrol is now seen as this big lying money scavenging company, when we're a group of people who work as friends to provide services for gamers. I should be taking the bullet, not the company or it's staff.

Edited:
So yeah I'm not a very nice guy, but that doesn't affect my work at Extracontrol is any single way.

I'll also point out that I don't want my personal records (IP, etc) on this thread for defamatory use. Respect that.

[MistaHardkill]

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Originally Posted by Chenko I was talking about NGG not you personally. As for your talk about the community I assure you it isn't as you have described it: "broken community full of fanboys who aren't there to roleplay, but to swing off the owners nutsack." The server has progressed a lot from those two or three month. My opinion is probably a little biased due to the fact of being apart of the community but it seems as if you have spent some time away from it and don't have a full picture on what its like at this point. About PrawkC, sure he made a large mistake but he owned up to his actions. He is a damn good scripter and he doesn't rage and leak the script like Silentfood.

Silentfood didn't leak anything that really belonged to MTG to begin with. When he was around it, from what I am told, was still based on Vortex1. Not sure if that's the case now, but all the same. It's not leaking if it's not your 100% original code to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Chenko The things you say about Westingham I have never even heard of. Sounds like some crap rumor started by someone who hates him. Anyways this thread isn't here to discuss MTG.

Must have been before your time. I assure you, this stuff DID happen. I assure you, many big contributors and well known members have left solely because of him. Including a big part of the development team. Granted, the guy who was in Rickles position beforehand probably wasn't any better, but that's irrelevant to the issue. I was around for the whole Silentfood crap that happened back in December or so, I didn't pay much attention to it, but I was around. If you remember that, than you're either kissing ass or seriously uneducated and misinformed about the situation with Rickles. While I take no sides on the matter and its one persons word against another, nobody over there can really be trusted.

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Originally Posted by Chenko Silentfood has always hated MTG ever since his departure. You can probably blame most Ddos of the server on him and he leaked the script. I called this guy a friend once but he is a deceiving guy and shouldn't be trusted.

They're not DDoS'. Stop calling them DDoS'. Besides, a lot of people hate MTG. It is broken when compared to its competition. It's laggy all the time, they constantly steal ideas from other communities, and Kevin whores his popularity to get it across and NEVER plays. This "come play SAMP with me" crap is ridiculous and a big salesman ploy.

[Chenko]

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Originally Posted by Silentfood This really surprises me that I'm getting assumed to be DDoSing, or doing packet attacks against a community. I have never in my life, or even stood to thought about doing that to someone. I don't take good interest or either enjoy MTG so I have my grudges against it, but what I did wasn't a DDoS. What you see is me enter with a system variable name, the server's script stalled and failed to continue. I worked on that code at the start Rickles, I know it's weaknesses and I was stupid to touch them. The incoming connections you see are just players trying to reconnect. If your scripters were good enough to investigate that further, they would have seen how system variables cannot be saved with an INI system. I just don't see how this in any shape or form should be linked to Extracontrol other than to cause suffering to me and the staff that bust their asses trying to get everything sorted on the backend. Now Extracontrol is now seen as this big lying money scavenging company, when we're a group of people who work as friends to provide services for gamers. I should be taking the bullet, not the company or it's staff. Edited: So yeah I'm not a very nice guy, but that doesn't affect my work at Extracontrol is any single way. I'll also point out that I don't want my personal records (IP, etc) on this thread for defamatory use. Respect that.

That's what happens when the owner of a company does shady things. In this case attacks another SAMP server because they have a grudge on it. It makes the owner look bad and in turn makes the company look bad. Your actions have been exposed publicly and now your company may suffer because of it. How about you learn from your mistakes, drop the grudge like a big boy, and move on. Then we can all forget about each other and move on.