12.09.2018, 03:42
I honestly strongly disagree with Kalcor's statements about this forum not being a big part of SA-MP and that having a lot of posts here doesn't mean you've contributed anything to SA-MP.
This was the main place that SA-MP community members "hung out" outside of their server forums/IRC channels etc., the main place where it didn't matter which server you were a part of because we were all a part of SA-MP and came together because of it, and we all got to know each other here.
When it became apparent that the people in charge of the forum couldn't care less about it (a few years ago now) and let it turn to poop by letting spammers ruin it, slacking on moderation, and just making it an overall crappy place for everyone other than scripters, the English community no longer wanted to spend their time here, and most of us veterans just fizzled out of SA-MP as a whole because of it.
It's only been recently that the old players have started to come back together again in hopes of teaming up to breathe some life back into SA-MP and hang out again, because we still see potential in it. Unfortunately we have to rely on other means of communication as this forum isn't built for that anymore.
What this forum needed was proper community sections for us to discuss whatever we wanted (within reason), not just one section named "Everything & Nothing" where the content was highly moderated but the users weren't. You could hardly make threads for casual conversations without them being deleted, and the ones that did stay would just get ruined by the idiots who never learned that it wasn't ok to post stupid responses and flame each other, because they were rarely reprimanded for it.
The forum needed moderators who cared and who weren't just doing it because they were obligated to because their names were blue - it needed mods who were a part of the community, who knew the forum and its users back to front, and who genuinely wanted to be here and help make this a better place.
I don't think it's too late for that, Kalcor already knows that there are tonnes of trustworthy people willing to help with that, I personally have made it clear that I'm available for help and would love to do so, but it just depends what the goal of the forum is I suppose. If it's supposed to simply be a place for scripters and server owners to help and be helped, then the direction it's going in is fine. But if it's supposed to be a community forum, and Kalcor is willing to hear us out, then some changes need to be made.
Why not try it our way? Why not let us be more involved, let us help make this place a community forum again, and let us help rebuild what we are hanging onto because we aren't ready to let it go yet? If it doesn't work then we lost nothing by trying, and you can simply revert it back to a scripting forum.
This was the main place that SA-MP community members "hung out" outside of their server forums/IRC channels etc., the main place where it didn't matter which server you were a part of because we were all a part of SA-MP and came together because of it, and we all got to know each other here.
When it became apparent that the people in charge of the forum couldn't care less about it (a few years ago now) and let it turn to poop by letting spammers ruin it, slacking on moderation, and just making it an overall crappy place for everyone other than scripters, the English community no longer wanted to spend their time here, and most of us veterans just fizzled out of SA-MP as a whole because of it.
It's only been recently that the old players have started to come back together again in hopes of teaming up to breathe some life back into SA-MP and hang out again, because we still see potential in it. Unfortunately we have to rely on other means of communication as this forum isn't built for that anymore.
What this forum needed was proper community sections for us to discuss whatever we wanted (within reason), not just one section named "Everything & Nothing" where the content was highly moderated but the users weren't. You could hardly make threads for casual conversations without them being deleted, and the ones that did stay would just get ruined by the idiots who never learned that it wasn't ok to post stupid responses and flame each other, because they were rarely reprimanded for it.
The forum needed moderators who cared and who weren't just doing it because they were obligated to because their names were blue - it needed mods who were a part of the community, who knew the forum and its users back to front, and who genuinely wanted to be here and help make this a better place.
I don't think it's too late for that, Kalcor already knows that there are tonnes of trustworthy people willing to help with that, I personally have made it clear that I'm available for help and would love to do so, but it just depends what the goal of the forum is I suppose. If it's supposed to simply be a place for scripters and server owners to help and be helped, then the direction it's going in is fine. But if it's supposed to be a community forum, and Kalcor is willing to hear us out, then some changes need to be made.
Why not try it our way? Why not let us be more involved, let us help make this place a community forum again, and let us help rebuild what we are hanging onto because we aren't ready to let it go yet? If it doesn't work then we lost nothing by trying, and you can simply revert it back to a scripting forum.