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Originally Posted by ****** There are still many people who want to play, and many people who believe there is still life in the mod. There are other people qualified to take over and run things, even within the original vision and limitations of the mod. The two of us discussed this years ago and I wasn’t willing/able to at the time - but things change and I regret that decision. Plus there is all the Russian community that is still going strong. I know you don’t have much interaction with that side, but again other people do - they are there and crying out for updates. I know we’ve never been close, but I think I’ve proven myself more than capable and dedicated (minor hiccups excluded). On the other hand, if you want “anyone but me”, at least make it someone - I can think of a list of capable people off the top of my head to run things. If you don’t want to continue, that’s fine. No-one expects anyone to keep doing the same thing forever, but please don’t pull everything else down with you (like I did, it was a mistake).

Exactly, but think of the projects that are "Open Source" how much that's actually been done because of it; I mean Unreal Engine 4, there's a lot of features that have been included, improved and optimised because of the community a community that know's what it wants...

Now I'm not saying that SA-MP is UE4, but it sure as hell would benefit in the long term if people who knew what they were doing could contribute directly... Even if said source was locked out for a period of time to a set of people like yourself who've proved they've been able to build upon what's already there; Then in the future opened up for those who wish to contribute directly..

But that's purely my two-cents.

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Originally Posted by [HLF]Southclaw I wholeheartedly agree. I've said for years that SA:MP is a fantastic platform for introducing people to the basics of programming, and I've seen many younger people start, learn and progress in software development just because of SA:MP. People here still care enough to carry on what you started. I personally don't care how you run your forum and websites, none of that bothers me in the slightest because you're well within your right to do so. What does bother me is the sentiment that "SA:MP is dying" which has been echoed for years and never really been realised.

Its not dying, but its fading; No-where near as much as people think... English communities (at-least those starting) aren't as prevalent as they used to be; but that's expected at-least with mods like GTA:MP/Five:MP etc coming into the spot light... But its not like people who've been around for years are just going to up and leave for those mods (Especially when the framework for common stuff isn't around or built upon yet).

Hell I'm still working on stuff because I feel like it; Its a break from work and a break from my day to day stuff... Regardless of how many people are playing we need updates and we need reasons for people to continue doing what they love; Or at-least provide a way to grow a community from the ground up.. Hell its something that should've been thought about years back.