[rymax99]

What infrastructure do you have in place for your SA-MP server? I'm interested to know how much care/thought people put into the back-end of their server.

For me, I'm using 3 VPS servers all running Debian 7.

-One VPS server just hosting the SA-MP server itself which is located in Germany which has GREAT quality bandwidth (Internap). I also have a custom compile of Nginx, and PHP-FPM running on there to serve some things that need access to the same MySQL database as my game server. I'll eventually get around to setting up remote MySQL and adapting web applications to connect to the remote MySQL server, once I have the time and energy.
-One VPS server (OVH) hosting my community forums and TeamSpeak server. Running a custom compile of Nginx and other needed things such as PHP-FPM, MySQL, etc, just the typical stuff.
-One backup server which is totally locked down. The server is very secure and backups are VERY well thought out, they're totally automated and take backups of everything on my main servers. The backups are made via rsync, and every possible security mechanism that is viable has been put in place.

On all of the servers, I have tons of custom scripts written for backups, things to re-apply things such as chmod to ensure security, everything setup to completely work without messing with it on reboot, automated SA-MP server log rotation, automated web server log rotation, auto SA-MP server restarts in a crash, completely automated and remote backups as mentioned above, etc. I utilize CSF as well, as it's a great front-end for iptables, makes transferring rules and what not from server to server a breeze, other built in things such as LFD work nicely too. Also everything is running on isolated users, along with a good bit of server side security. I'll note that the stuff I've mentioned is largely a small portion to the amount of actual stuff I've done to ensure speed, security, stability, and uptime.

I'm also utilizing custom compiles of Nginx on all web server instances as mentioned in the list. I modify PHP and MySQL a bit too depending on the circumstance.

So lets hear yours, I'm interested to hear some setups!

[NoSoap]

Two dedi's in France running CentOS both loaded with TCAdmin!

Don't understand the fascination with VPS when you could have a dedi (certainly for the price of 3).

[Potassium]

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Originally Posted by NoSoap Don't understand the fascination with VPS when you could have a dedi (certainly for the price of 3).

VPSs are quite a lot cheaper than dedicated servers, so that's the fascination with them. You could get a dedi for the price of 3 VPSs (although I have multiple VPSs and they still total less than what a dedi would cost) if you don't mind your servers all being in the one location, but some people like to have servers in different locations rather than just the one. I guess it just comes down to what your server needs :P

[Aldo.]

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Originally Posted by NoSoap Two dedi's in France running CentOS both loaded with TCAdmin! Don't understand the fascination with VPS when you could have a dedi (certainly for the price of 3).

Besides the fact one DDoS attack that is strong enough taking down ALL your services if you run them on a single dedi.
Besides the fact budget plays a huge factor in server purchasing.
Besides the fact needs play a factor in server purchasing.

Yes a dedi will be better than a VPS but if you can't afford it and or you are new to servers then you shouldn't get one.

[NoSoap]

Fair enough, however one DDoS attack won't take down either of my servers, it would just disrupt them slightly.
I guess it is a price thing then, but I'd rather not share my resources on a VPS, and the cheap hosts tend to cram as many as they can onto a dedi.

[rymax99]

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Originally Posted by NoSoap Fair enough, however one DDoS attack won't take down either of my servers, it would just disrupt them slightly. I guess it is a price thing then, but I'd rather not share my resources on a VPS, and the cheap hosts tend to cram as many as they can onto a dedi.

Honestly, it all depends on who you go with. I use NFOServers.com for my game server VPS. They do not overload and they use Xen which gives customers dedicated resources. Unless you really need the power behind a dedicated server, then I'd just go with a VPS from a good company. There's also that when you reboot a VPS, you aren't worrying about weather or not it's going to reboot properly.

[Khanz]

4 VPS's, 1 VPS which hosts the server, 1 hosts the mysql, 1 hosts the website, 1 backsup all the data, running glorious Debian 7.

[Jake187]

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Originally Posted by Aldo. Besides the fact one DDoS attack that is strong enough taking down ALL your services if you run them on a single dedi. Besides the fact budget plays a huge factor in server purchasing. Besides the fact needs play a factor in server purchasing. Yes a dedi will be better than a VPS but if you can't afford it and or you are new to servers then you shouldn't get one.

1. DDoS attacks go towards one IP address unless the attacker decides to unload certain percent of his powers to each IP which would be useless. So if you have protection such as OVH only one IP is being effected by the filter. So who says this is going to take down all your services ?
2/3. If you need to buy three VPSes to host such simple things such as a site / teamspeak and a game server you're crazy and just wasting money which could be taken on a cheap dedicated and do the same tasks.

If you are new to servers you should always get a dedicated not a VPS as you will not understand the limits of the VPS and how cores actually work and how it's shared and so forth. So you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by Aldo. If you honestly believe that you will be in for a rude awakening if the right person launches an attack on your servers, even then OVH's protection won't be able to protect you.

Will protect more than NFOServers that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by Aldo. You did prove your point that neither is more secure than the other since they both can have the same security measures put in pace and a remote SQL server's firewall can be setup to block ALL unwanted access to it but they are equally vulnerable due to the fact a server with public internet access is allowed to connect to them.

Unless the person knows to allow Remote Access only to certain IPs, by default local is more secure actually. Because it takes the knowing to limit the remote access to actually make it as secure.

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Originally Posted by rymax99 Redundancy, security, etc. OpenVZ (virtualization platform) isn't ideal for any game server hosting by design, either. OVH uses OpenVZ. I prefer NFOServers for my main game server as I know for a fact they don't oversell, and with Xen you get dedicated resources. They also use Internap data centers which have very high quality bandwidth.

If you don't know how to secure a dedicated server why are you even touching a VPS, it can be even worse just because you're only running certain applications doesn't mean it is any more secure than a dedicated. If you want the same effect all you have to do is have certain IPs for certain things and limit access for everything else out of those IP addresses.

And he said a cheap server not a VPS so why are you talking about OpenVZ which has nothing to do with dedicated servers. NFOServers has no protection and now days sa-mp is one of the more popular games to attack other game servers even just for fun, this is why OVH is so recommended.

Just because they have high quality bandwidth doesn't mean they won't nullroute you once a 100mbit attack starts.

[rymax99]

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Originally Posted by Jake187 1. DDoS attacks go towards one IP address unless the attacker decides to unload certain percent of his powers to each IP which would be useless. So if you have protection such as OVH only one IP is being effected by the filter. So who says this is going to take down all your services ? 2/3. If you need to buy three VPSes to host such simple things such as a site / teamspeak and a game server you're crazy and just wasting money which could be taken on a cheap dedicated and do the same tasks. If you are new to servers you should always get a dedicated not a VPS as you will not understand the limits of the VPS and how cores actually work and how it's shared and so forth. So you're wrong. Will protect more than NFOServers that's for sure. Unless the person knows to allow Remote Access only to certain IPs, by default local is more secure actually. Because it takes the knowing to limit the remote access to actually make it as secure. If you don't know how to secure a dedicated server why are you even touching a VPS, it can be even worse just because you're only running certain applications doesn't mean it is any more secure than a dedicated. If you want the same effect all you have to do is have certain IPs for certain things and limit access for everything else out of those IP addresses. And he said a cheap server not a VPS so why are you talking about OpenVZ which has nothing to do with dedicated servers. NFOServers has no protection and now days sa-mp is one of the more popular games to attack other game servers even just for fun, this is why OVH is so recommended. Just because they have high quality bandwidth doesn't mean they won't nullroute you once a 100mbit attack starts.

I know exactly how to secure servers, I secure all of my servers just fine. I run multiple VPS servers on different decent hosts for redundancy (if one location goes down, my other services aren't affected).

Please do your due diligence before correcting. NFO has a 20 Gbps connection, has great filters, and automated systems to block attacks. 100mbit is nothing for an attack these days.

I actually had a good friend stress test an OVH and NFO server I have. OVH went down pretty much instantly, and he couldn't budge the NFO (Internap) server. NFO has been around the game hosting business for 10+ years and have seen pretty much every attack. They know what they're doing, how to effectively mitigate attacks, etc.

You didn't correctly read the background behind what I was saying when I was talking about OpenVZ not being ideal for game server hosting. I'm right regarding that. I was replying to ThomasTailor93's query "Why the hell people got three or more VPS? OVH provide a powerful DDoS protection and the servers are cheap.". That being said, I want to use OVH because it's cheap and it has decent protection, I just opt to use a different host that's better for game server hosting for my game server.

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2/3. If you need to buy three VPSes to host such simple things such as a site / teamspeak and a game server you're crazy and just wasting money which could be taken on a cheap dedicated and do the same tasks.

I bet I pay less for my 3 VPS servers than I would need to pay to get the same power with the same quality bandwidth and what not under a dedicated server. I don't have to worry about hardware failing and having to get in contact with OVH to replace it, I don't have to worry about it not booting and likely having to pay the fees associated with a system administrator, etc.

Again, do your due diligence before correcting people.

[Aldo.]

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Originally Posted by rymax99 I know exactly how to secure servers, I secure all of my servers just fine. I run multiple VPS servers on different decent hosts for redundancy (if one location goes down, my other services aren't affected). Please do your due diligence before correcting. NFO has a 20 Gbps connection, has great filters, and automated systems to block attacks. 100mbit is nothing for an attack these days. I actually had a good friend stress test an OVH and NFO server I have. OVH went down pretty much instantly, and he couldn't budge the NFO (Internap) server. NFO has been around the game hosting business for 10+ years and have seen pretty much every attack. They know what they're doing, how to effectively mitigate attacks, etc. You didn't correctly read the background behind what I was saying when I was talking about OpenVZ not being ideal for game server hosting. I'm right regarding that. I was replying to ThomasTailor93's query "Why the hell people got three or more VPS? OVH provide a powerful DDoS protection and the servers are cheap.". That being said, I want to use OVH because it's cheap and it has decent protection, I just opt to use a different host that's better for game server hosting for my game server. I bet I pay less for my 3 VPS servers than I would need to pay to get the same power with the same quality bandwidth and what not under a dedicated server. I don't have to worry about hardware failing and having to get in contact with OVH to replace it, I don't have to worry about it not booting and likely having to pay the fees associated with a system administrator, etc. Again, do your due diligence before correcting people.

You beat me to the punch .

To add to this reply to Mr.Jake a person new to servers should never get a dedi over a VPS since you can fuck up 10000000000000x worst on a dedi than a vps.