[ettans]

Judging by the stupidity of the online gaming world, I think this post is neccesary. You may have heard of the trouble with EA and Origin, specifically them using your personal information. By installing EA's Origin software you are doing a whole lot more than just installing an application on your system, namely:

1. You agree to not sue EA
2. You allow EA's Origin to watch EVERYTHING you do on your computer
3. You give the right to monitor your computer, make a profile of you, including which programs you have installed (and whether you have any illegally downloaded material), what websites you use, etc., and that EA reserves the right to share or sell this information to third parties

EA's Origin ToS:

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"EA Origin’s ToS insists you not sue" "EA's Origin does watch everything you do on your computer" "By installing Origin you're giving EA the right to monitor your PC and to make a profile of you, including what programs you have installed (and whether you have any illegally downloaded material), what websites you use, etc., and that EA reserves the right to share or sell this information to third parties."

Yes, EA had their lawyers change their ToS, but nothing was really changed, just re-worded. So, you allow them to watch what you do, basically give them the ownership of your personal information and allow them to SELL that information to third parties.

Installed Origin? Congratulations, you just installed a rootkit on your computer. SecuROM worked in Ring0 behind a Ring3 smoke-screen, you think this won't?

Something else:

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EA sued over Spore's SecuROM "Even if the consumer uninstalls Spore, and entirely deletes it from their computer, SecuROM remains a fixture in their computer unless and until the consumer completely wipes their hard drive through reformatting or replacement of the drive."

I understand nobody gives a crap about the agreements when installing something, you just press next, same with ToS. You can't really blame EA for this, since you agreed to this, nobody forced you.

[CJ101]

EA is a big company. I don't really believe that they spy on your computer.

[ettans]

That's exactly why they get away, big companies have that advantage. People tend to trust big companies, but that's because people are also naive. EA admitted everything themself, it was publically viewable on the Origin ToS.

[CJ101]

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Originally Posted by ettans That's exactly why they get away, big companies have that advantage. People tend to trust big companies, but that's because people are also naive. EA admitted everything themself, it was publically viewable on the Origin ToS.

Well than the only reason they are doing this is probaly to stop some people from downloading programs without buying them.

[ettans]

No, if you read my post again you'll understand why they do this. We life in a technology era, world of information. Information equals power. To anyone who thinks I'm full of bs, go ahead and read the ToS yourself. The ToS clearly states EA can SELL your information to third parties, which of course means a lot of money to them. Information equals power and money.

[Hal]

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Originally Posted by ettans No, if you read my post again you'll understand why they do this. We life in a technology era, world of information. Information equals power. To anyone who thinks I'm full of bs, go ahead and read the ToS yourself. The ToS clearly states EA can SELL your information to third parties, which of course means a lot of money to them. Information equals power and money.

Link us the TOS, and tell use the line numbers that prove this. Cause all I sense right now is a bunch of shit coming from your mouth.

[ettans]

There's information all over the internet, also about the lawsuit:

http://www.geek.com/articles/games/e...uits-20110926/
http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/

Do some work yourself. I feel sorry for the people who trust big companies just because the company is big. ****** the rest of this e-drama. I'm surprised you haven't heard of this, after all, you're all in love with EA so I figured you'd atleast be up to date with their shenanigans.

[Elorreli]

******** does the same, are you using it?

If so you should stop.

[ettans]

You are missing the whole point. The way Origin and ******** collect data is COMPLETELY different. Origin.

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"By installing Origin you're giving EA the right to monitor your PC and to make a profile of you, including what programs you have installed (and whether you have any illegally downloaded material), what websites you use, etc., and that EA reserves the right to share or sell this information to third parties."

The following picture describes best what Origin users think of themselves and Origin, but also the harsh reality of it:

[Hal]

@your title, downloading a program doesn't mean your a fanboy.

Also, steam keeps a record of ALL your installed programs, I wouldn't be shocked if it were the same. Yet, I don't care.