[jremi]

Ok so apparently my hdd drive is the only thing holding my performance when recording(dropping TONs of frames while recording). So I pulled out my saga drive from my laptop that I had no problems recording with, and it's in the shop now getting sorted out...

I wiped my SSD COMPLETELY, no OS nothing. But my HDd has windows 8.

So do I just install my games on the SSD and have the file destination for my recordings to the SSD, and it will be good?(with hdd as boot drive with OS on it)

Or do I install windows onto the sata/ssd, and have all games and recordings on the Sata drive?


Btw, SATA is SSD right?


My laptop was lower spec than PC, but could record any game without fps drop, but overheated(problem with the laptop, had for a while), the only bad thing with PC is that it's a hdd.

[Mark_Weston]

I got 2 SSD's and 2 HDD's

I use my main SSD for windows, and softwares, second SSD for heavy games such as BF4, ArmA 3, etc.

and HDD for the rest.

In other words use your SSD for your "good" games. You don't need to speed up loading for SA-MP. Unless you have a 1TB SSD. (gonna get it soon ya should do it as well)

[rymax99]

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Btw, SATA is SSD right?

SATA is an interface.

In a perfect world, SSD's would be priced like HDD's, 1 TB for around $50, but that is simply not the case. In general, anything that requires faster than HDD speeds (usually around 100 MB/s) would benefit from a SSD. It's a simple principle, if something requires more performance than something can provide, then everything will slow down.

Back to the question - I would install my OS on the SSD, any reasonably sized programs that I frequently use/rely on such as a web browser and what not, maybe a few games if they're of a reasonable size, etc. You get the point. If you're recording to a HDD then yeah, it'd make sense to drop frames if the HDD can't keep up, but most 7200 RPM HDD's can maintain at LEAST 90 MB/s write speed. My WD black maintains around 130-140 MB/s sustained write speeds. You can try using one of the various disk benchmarking utilities out there to benchmark the drives in question - if one is too slow to record to, it's likely that there's a serious issue with it, I'd start by backing up any crucial data. Apart from replacing it, you can try switching the SATA wire, the SATA port it's using, etc.

[Mauzen]

Theres a noticeable difference when having the OS on the SSD. Games on a SSD also load up a bit faster, but I just got one game on it. A SSD's lifetime strongly depends on how much you write to it. Recording videos to it is like smoking, with every recorded video the ssd's deaths comes a bit closer, especially when its uncompressed and long.
I know its greedy to get a SSD just to barely use it, but actually I dont even think recording on the SSD will be much faster, it would be rather sane to put the OS and stuff on the SSD, and so reduce the load of the HDD to get more bandwidth for video recording.
You should also check the SATA version. Theres SATA 2, which still is the most common, but SSDs wont have a much higher bandwidth, because it just transfers up to 300MB/s. SATA 3 gets up to 600MB/s fast, so this is what you want to have for a SSD. Even on SATA 2 a SSD would still have fast access times, so it would be good for the OS and swap file, but pretty much useless for video recording, so you should check what kind of SATA ports you got.

[jremi]

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Originally Posted by Mark_Weston I got 2 SSD's and 2 HDD's I use my main SSD for windows, and softwares, second SSD for heavy games such as BF4, ArmA 3, etc. and HDD for the rest. In other words use your SSD for your "good" games. You don't need to speed up loading for SA-MP. Unless you have a 1TB SSD. (gonna get it soon ya should do it as well)

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Originally Posted by rymax99 SATA is an interface. In a perfect world, SSD's would be priced like HDD's, 1 TB for around $50, but that is simply not the case. In general, anything that requires faster than HDD speeds (usually around 100 MB/s) would benefit from a SSD. It's a simple principle, if something requires more performance than something can provide, then everything will slow down. Back to the question - I would install my OS on the SSD, any reasonably sized programs that I frequently use/rely on such as a web browser and what not, maybe a few games if they're of a reasonable size, etc. You get the point. If you're recording to a HDD then yeah, it'd make sense to drop frames if the HDD can't keep up, but most 7200 RPM HDD's can maintain at LEAST 90 MB/s write speed. My WD black maintains around 130-140 MB/s sustained write speeds. You can try using one of the various disk benchmarking utilities out there to benchmark the drives in question - if one is too slow to record to, it's likely that there's a serious issue with it, I'd start by backing up any crucial data. Apart from replacing it, you can try switching the SATA wire, the SATA port it's using, etc.

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Originally Posted by ****** If the bottleneck is recording, leave the games on the HDD where they are and just record to the SSD. Or the thing I do is use two HDDs in RAID (RAID 0 if you want write performance) for more capacity and speed. Remember - SSDs have limited writes, so should be mostly used read-only to prolong their life.

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Originally Posted by Mauzen Theres a noticeable difference when having the OS on the SSD. Games on a SSD also load up a bit faster, but I just got one game on it. A SSD's lifetime strongly depends on how much you write to it. Recording videos to it is like smoking, with every recorded video the ssd's deaths comes a bit closer, especially when its uncompressed and long. I know its greedy to get a SSD just to barely use it, but actually I dont even think recording on the SSD will be much faster, it would be rather sane to put the OS and stuff on the SSD, and so reduce the load of the HDD to get more bandwidth for video recording. You should also check the SATA version. Theres SATA 2, which still is the most common, but SSDs wont have a much higher bandwidth, because it just transfers up to 300MB/s. SATA 3 gets up to 600MB/s fast, so this is what you want to have for a SSD. Even on SATA 2 a SSD would still have fast access times, so it would be good for the OS and swap file, but pretty much useless for video recording, so you should check what kind of SATA ports you got.

I don't care about loading times, I just don't want to start getting 20 fps while recording...

So aslong as my recording destination and my fraps/obs are set/installed to my ssd, i won't lose as much frames like I did back on my laptop?

[kaisersouse]

Put your Windows page/swap file on the standard HDD and set it to the same size both minimum and maximum. I do the following:

HDD1 - Windows and non-gaming apps
HDD2 - Windows swap file (in theory separate HDD channels = better performance) swap file set to 8192 min and max
SSD1 - Games

[jremi]

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Originally Posted by kaisersouse Put your Windows page/swap file on the standard HDD and set it to the same size both minimum and maximum. I do the following: HDD1 - Windows and non-gaming apps HDD2 - Windows swap file (in theory separate HDD channels = better performance) swap file set to 8192 min and max SSD1 - Games

I don't understand D:

[kaisersouse]

Haha sorry:

I have a 1TB standard hard drive for Windows and things like Office, etc...since I don't really care how fast they perform.

I have a small 100GB standard hard drive that I've set as the pagefile disk. ALL virtual memory is handled on this hard drive, all by itself on a different SATA channel. This way, Windows OS can do its thing at the same time as the pagefile, without one having to wait for the other.

The SSD has all my games on it, since I want them to load fast and (so far as I can tell) games read a hell of a lot more than they write.

[jremi]

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Originally Posted by kaisersouse Haha sorry: I have a 1TB standard hard drive for Windows and things like Office, etc...since I don't really care how fast they perform. I have a small 100GB standard hard drive that I've set as the pagefile disk. ALL virtual memory is handled on this hard drive, all by itself on a different SATA channel. This way, Windows OS can do its thing at the same time as the pagefile, without one having to wait for the other. The SSD has all my games on it, since I want them to load fast and (so far as I can tell) games read a hell of a lot more than they write.

Oh ok, how do my do that?

Also, do you think the hard drive is the reason why im having these problems when recording on my pc, that I didn't have on my laptop? My PC is. Pretty much 2x as better..

[jremi]

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Originally Posted by ****** You seem to have missed the point most people have made here about SSD writes (even kaisersouse alluded to it) - don't record FRAPS to an SSD unless you want it to die very quickly!

So where do I record to/use to record ?