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Artificially increased player count - Pottus - 30.09.2014

I take notice of the other DayZ servers quite regularly to keep competitive you need to see what other people are doing. There is a new server that opened recently that appears to be faking their player count it is really obvious and I will present the evidence of this and ask that steps be taken against them.

SAMP Disclaimer:
https://sampwiki.blast.hk/wiki/SA-MP_Wik...ral_disclaimer
(g) You may not artificially increase your player count or provide false info to the SA-MP query mechanism.

The server in question recently posted an ad it can be found here.

https://sampforum.blast.hk/showthread.php?tid=539029

I really noticed something was going on right away as this server is not on the hosted list and with a player count of over 30 during off peak hours is statistically impossible.

Evidence of this activity.
All level 0's


In game
All consistent low pings it's again statistically impossible.

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Re: Artificially increased play count - Potassium - 30.09.2014

It's sad that their servers are so terrible that they have to resort to this lol. But posting on a forum full of members who can't do anything about it isn't going to do anything, the correct method to report it is to email team@sa-mp.com

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Re: Artificially increased play count - Pottus - 30.09.2014

Oh you can bet I will be letting them know but I figured I would post here as well for all to see It really boils my blood that legit server owners work our asses off for some goofs to come along and do this.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - TakeiT - 30.09.2014

Is there really anything that can be done? I know they can revoke your license, but that won't stop the server from running.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - Emmet_ - 30.09.2014

The player count is down to 4 now:



All they did was download Kitten's DayZ script and host it with fake players. It's not competition if you have to fake your player count just to bring in players.

They can ban the user who posted the advertisement. It could help a little bit, but the idiots will keep doing it anyway.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - Pottus - 30.09.2014

I take it they can ban their IP from the masterlist.

Well you know that is their attempt to try and compete it's like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum with arms flailing they wanted to get noticed so now they've been noticed.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - Joshua1 - 30.09.2014

Lol thats just sad. When you log in, you're most likely gonna find out that the players are fake anyhow, so its dumb to even put them on. I know if I joined a server like that I would /q instantly. But whatever, these kids can try to cheat

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Re: Artificially increased player count - Wutangclan - 30.09.2014

Strange. I actually played on the server and didn't even notice this

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Re: Artificially increased player count - Nato - 30.09.2014

Hi there,

So I was just online as an admin for the eDayZ server and I'm in no way an owner for the server but anyway I had this "player" come and message me about this forum post about five minutes after it was posted which seems a tad odd to me to start and nearly three or four minutes after he messaged me these "bots" started joining the server which all have the same ip address as the "player" who talked to me about it.

Now I cannot confirm or deny whether the owner has for some reason got bots to do so, but in my eyes it seems very very unfair for people to openly slate a server without actually knowing if they are faking bots or not.

Now I'm a 22 year old with a full time job who plays on the server just for fun and I'm not interested in getting back into a whole "he said / she said" argument but I will make my efforts to /ban all bots that I can identify whilst online and also pass on the IP addresses of those said bots.

I don't want to point blame at the poster (even though he runs the same game/gamemode) as he may of just joined the server and thought they were bots, but I find it very suspicious and very odd.

So save the hate/blame and maybe even ask the owners before you go out of your way to take blame into your own hands without knowing the full facts.

Will update with further info when I get it.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - LeGGGeNNdA - 30.09.2014

Wow seriosly. I played in that server some days ago because I liked the gamemode and was seeing it full of players. Shame on the owners.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - Potassium - 30.09.2014

That doesn't really add up, because if the bots joined AFTER this thread was made, then how was the screenshot posted before the bots supposedly joined?

However, it is really silly to jump to the conclusion that the server staff did this themselves. You don't know that, nor have proof of that. This thread is silly, just unnecessary drama over something that neither side has proof of. Use the correct methods of reporting things instead of publicly accusing people of things that there's not even any proof that they did. Something something defamation. Just worry about your own server, they're not harming it.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - Pottus - 30.09.2014

Come on man use your head it's not possible to achieve 15 ping without connecting locally 100 percent proof right there anyways next time if it happens I will just report it to the SAMP team because you are right that is all I should have done.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - KingHual - 30.09.2014

Pottus knows what he's talking about.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - Khanz - 30.09.2014

Most servers are hosted in OVH, FR. So if you live in Paris or nearby you know

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AW: Artificially increased player count - NaS - 30.09.2014

True, a 15 ping is not possible on samp through the internet - at least not for 30 players.
It's definitely a LAN ping, just go on any SAMP server and look for players having a 15 ping - you will hardly find any.

Assume they are real pings, do you really think there are 30 SAMP players so close to the server location all playing on your server at the same time? I guess not.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - Flaw - 30.09.2014

We received thousands of attacks logs due an attack by attacking edayz.

This is false and untrue we got attacked by an Program Called : RakSAMPClient which gives you an LOCAL Ping/MS

Me as the Owner of eDayZ would never use Bots to increase my player rate.

( And i didn't downloaded the DayZ 7.0 License ) i actually bought it.


IPs found :

5.133.58.225 [29/09/14 | 18:03:22] [DRD]TheLegendZ - (null)


BAD RCON ATTEMPT BY: 193.90.109.56

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Re: AW: Artificially increased player count - Potassium - 30.09.2014

No, that isn't what we were saying. Of course they are bots and of course they are obviously on the same connection by the same person. It doesn't mean that that person is a staff member of the server though. I don't think anyone in the thread said that they were real players.

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Re: Artificially increased player count - Flaw - 30.09.2014

Well... i don't wanna get blacklisted due this problem causes by others...


how would you feel ~~...

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Re: Artificially increased player count - IceCube! - 30.09.2014

Why does everyone seem to think Pottus is attacking the "staff" member, he was simply explaining why they were bots, and why they were hosted locally where the server is.

Also, why does said "staff" member deny this or denies it but denies denying it so much? If it was me I would as a staff member simply say my piece and leave it there, it's not my server not my reputation it's going to destroy. Also how he makes very post so it's worded as if Pottus was attacking him is just despicable.

As for what Khanz said "living near the server", you will still find that the Ping is higher than 15, this is because it first has to goto the ISPs or a shared server which knows where the desired IP Packet has to go. It's like on your own network, just a lot more complex. You can't just send a message to 192.168.0.4, it has to go through the router first. This will redirect the packet to where it needs to go, unless your connect directly through a cable with no DNS server, and therefore can choose your IP ?(impossivle on an ISP) you cannot route a packet to go direct to its destination.

There used to be a VPS host in the centre of Bristol, England where I live. My ping to that about 4 miles away direct was 25ms as it had to goto the DNS servwe/router thing to be routed to its destination first making it travel 15 instead of 4 miles.

Obviously in order to leave my house it had to go through my network aswell, then when it arrived in their networked it had to be routed through their network. This makes 1 hop essentially more like 5 or 6 hops minimum making 15 impossible even if we cut out the middle Man (the ISP).

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Re: Artificially increased player count - TakeiT - 30.09.2014

If the server is built well enough, trace the IP of both the players and the owner. If they're close, then tell him to suck a lemon.

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