Question about VPS -
jaami - 05.07.2012
Well im thiking of buying VPS, Its 150GB HDD, And it has 2GB of RAM, Well a question. How many server can i host in VPS? And does it make lag if i host to much?
Re: Question about VPS -
Samp_India - 05.07.2012
The RAM usage depends on the number of players that connect to your server.
Re: Question about VPS -
mickos - 05.07.2012
VPS is not good
Re: Question about VPS -
ColorHost-Kevin - 06.07.2012
VPS is great for running a server. And those specs should be fine.
Re: Question about VPS -
Cell_ - 06.07.2012
You must tell us about the bandwidth if you want both your questions answered.
Re: Question about VPS -
Kaperstone - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by mickos0087
VPS is not good
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As i heard from my friends(not from him,that's why i quoted),its not a very good idea to host a server through VPS as it lags and slower than dedicated server.
it will be better to host a website through it or something similiar,but nothing too powerful\strong.
VPS can host up to 100 servers at once if he has enough power for it.
some VPS's can host only 10 servers at once because their specs are too low to run more.
Can you provide more information than that ?
because i heard it has a proccecor and if it has than it will depend on it too.
Re: Question about VPS -
ColorHost-Kevin - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by xkirill
As i heard from my friends(not from him,that's why i quoted),its not a very good idea to host a server through VPS as it lags and slower than dedicated server.
it will be better to host a website through it or something similiar,but nothing too powerful\strong.
VPS can host up to 100 servers at once if he has enough power for it.
some VPS's can host only 10 servers at once because their specs are too low to run more.
Can you provide more information than that ?
because i heard it has a proccecor and if it has than it will depend on it too.
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That is highly false, a VPS machine can run a SAMP server great.
What factors in however is if the network can handle it, and the CPU and if other VPS clients on the host you use are abusing system resources.
Re: Question about VPS -
jaami - 06.07.2012
Well im sticking to buying normal host then.
Re: Question about VPS -
Kaperstone - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by ColorHost-Kevin
That is highly false, a VPS machine can run a SAMP server great.
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why are you argueing ? why are you tring to be a smartass.
VPS = Virtual Pivate Server
Dedicated server
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Originally Posted by wikipedia
a method of partitioning a physical server computer into multiple servers
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why do you think that partitioning a physical server into multiple servers (VPS's) is better than running all on the physical serrver.
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Originally Posted by "wikipedia
A dedicated hosting service, dedicated server, or managed hosting service is a type of Internet hosting in which the client leases an entire server not shared with anyone else.
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if you have VPS than you're taking a part from the physical server,means the physical server sharing his RAM,internet speed and CPU with a few more VPS's.
and if you run a server through the physical server than you don't share anything with anyone.
Full speed goes to you.
seriously,don't know anything about servers,than don't argue about it.
Learn to read.
Respuesta: Re: Question about VPS -
Grim_ - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by xkirill
why are you argueing ? why are you tring to be a smartass.
VPS = Virtual Pivate Server
Dedicated server
why do you think that partitioning a physical server into multiple servers (VPS's) is better than running all on the physical serrver.
if you have VPS than you're taking a part from the physical server,means the physical server sharing his RAM,internet speed and CPU with a few more VPS's.
and if you run a server through the physical server than you don't share anything with anyone.
Full speed goes to you.
seriously,don't know anything about servers,than don't argue about it.
Learn to read.
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Why do you always intend on calling people smartasses, when in fact you have no clue on what it is you're talking about. I've already pointed you out to be wrong a few hours ago, so I'll refrain from doing so twice within a day. However, he is not the one starting the argument, YOU are. He simply stated his opinion, and you claim he was starting and argument and called him a "smartass".
Please, go somewhere with your idiotic attitude and little knowledge. You are really getting to me, claiming others are trying to prove themselves are smarter than everyone else when that is really what you are doing. At least if you are going to do so, make sure your facts are straight.
Re: Question about VPS - next-studio|TheKiller - 06.07.2012
xkirill, VPS can run OR NOT sa-mp game servers.
It totally depends on the dedicated servers, which they're running.
If you think to host a vps on a dedicated which do not have VIRTUALIZATION system, of course it will totally lag,
If you host on a dedicated which have VIRTUALIZATION system, it isn't going to lag,
Then is the cpu / ram which you need to take a look.
And stop calling smartass, maybe you're trying to be the one.
Re: Question about VPS -
Robert West - 06.07.2012
VPS are not good , go buy real host ,
Re: Respuesta: Re: Question about VPS -
Kaperstone - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by Grim_
Why do you always intend on calling people smartasses, when in fact you have no clue on what it is you're talking about. I've already pointed you out to be wrong a few hours ago, so I'll refrain from doing so twice within a day. However, he is not the one starting the argument, YOU are. He simply stated his opinion, and you claim he was starting and argument and called him a "smartass".
Please, go somewhere with your idiotic attitude and little knowledge. You are really getting to me, claiming others are trying to prove themselves are smarter than everyone else when that is really what you are doing. At least if you are going to do so, make sure your facts are straight.
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I've not started the agrument,if you'll see my first post here you'll see that i've quoted somebody else.
and than he quoted me and told me that i am wrong.
Please,learn to read,i didn't said it can not run a samp server only that it laggs.
the only argument
you see here is about if the VPS will lag or not,that's all.
but unfourtanly,people like you don't read anything and just goes on argument.
That's the reason why i call people "Smartass" because you don't read anything,you're just reading the first post you see and comment on it.
Only when people will learn to read before posting,than i will stop call people "Smartass".
Edit2:
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Originally Posted by Robert West
VPS are not good , go buy real host ,
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Real hosts based on VPS's too,no ?
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Originally Posted by next-studio|TheKiller
xkirill, VPS can run OR NOT sa-mp game servers.
It totally depends on the dedicated servers, which they're running.
If you think to host a vps on a dedicated which do not have VIRTUALIZATION system, of course it will totally lag,
If you host on a dedicated which have VIRTUALIZATION system, it isn't going to lag,
Then is the cpu / ram which you need to take a look.
And stop calling smartass, maybe you're trying to be the one.
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Maybe they're tring to be one.
anyway,i would agree with you.
never heard about such a thing called "Virtualization" but isn't it comes with it when you buy it ?
About the RAM \ CPU -
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Originally Posted by KingJ
The CPU and RAM load will be entirely dependant on your script, however it's extremely uncommon for a SA-MP server to use more than 50mb of RAM.
As for OS, Windows or 32-bit Linux, whichever you want. As for bandwidth, assume approx 40kbit (0.04 mbit) per player, which will vary depending on how many players and objects are in the radius of each player.
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0.04mbit * 30p = 1.2mb
0.04mbit * 100p = 4mb
0.04mbit * 500p = 20mb
0.04mbit * 800p = 32mb
well i think that even 512mb ram would be fine.
but as he said,it has 2GB ram and who know's how much buyers and vps's they have on the same physical server.
if alot,than its can be a problem.
if not,than it would be fine.
Re: Respuesta: Re: Question about VPS -
Grim_ - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by xkirill
I've not started the agrument,if you'll see my first post here you'll see that i've quoted somebody else.
and than he quoted me and told me that i am wrong.
and please,learn to read,i didn't said it can not run a samp server.
only that it laggs.
the only argument you see here is about if the VPS will lag or not,that's all.
That's the reason why i call people "Smartass" because you don't read the whole comments,you're just reading the first post you see and comment on it.
When people will learn to read before posting,than i willn't have something to say about it and than i will not call anybody "smartass".
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You are clueless.
Firstly, I have read all the posts in this topic before replying. Secondly, he did not argue, just give his side/opinion, just like you or your "friend" did. Thirdly, you started the argument by being rude and calling him a smartass, at which point you decided to pull out your "facts" that really don't have any factual information.
I want you to prove me wrong. Go rent a VPS and record your gameplay, showing me this lag. As long as you have decent connection speed and specs, it would run perfectly fine.
Re: Respuesta: Re: Question about VPS -
Kaperstone - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by Grim_
You are clueless.
Firstly, I have read all the posts in this topic before replying. Secondly, he did not argue, just give his side/opinion, just like you or your "friend" did. Thirdly, you started the argument by being rude and calling him a smartass, at which point you decided to pull out your "facts" that really don't have any factual information.
I want you to prove me wrong. Go rent a VPS and record your gameplay, showing me this lag. As long as you have decent connection speed and specs, it would run perfectly fine.
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I didn't ask for opinion on my posts.
Don't like it ? keep moving down,i didn't ask for you to tell me if i wrong or not.
like it ? same.
i am not going to spend 10$ just to show some guy on samp that i am wrong\right.
go a head and spend some money by yourself just to prove that you are\somebody is wrong\right.
Re: Respuesta: Re: Question about VPS -
Grim_ - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by xkirill
I didn't ask for opinion on my posts.
Don't like it ? keep moving down,i didn't ask for you to tell me if i wrong or not.
like it ? same.
i am not going to spend 10$ just to show some guy on samp that i am wrong\right.
go a head and spend some money by yourself just to prove that you are\somebody is wrong\right.
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Nor do I care whether or not you want to hear - in the end, you will! Especially when you act like a "smartass" with having little or no knowledge on the subjects you are trying to share your wonderful brain power on. You start arguments and try to act like a savoir.
Regardless, I'm over here. No sense on continuing to feed someone who cannot even bother to take the time to look something up before accusing someone of not knowing something
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Re: Respuesta: Re: Question about VPS - next-studio|TheKiller - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by xkirill
Maybe they're tring to be one.
anyway,i would agree with you.
never heard about such a thing called "Virtualization" but isn't it comes with it when you buy it ?
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Operating system virtualization @
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operati...virtualization
hardware virtualization @
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_virtualization
@edit, with some hp pc's, hardware virtualization is already installed, like on my other pc.
Re: Respuesta: Re: Question about VPS -
Kaperstone - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by Grim_
Nor do I care whether or not you want to hear - in the end, you will! Especially when you act like a "smartass" with having little or no knowledge on the subjects you are trying to share your wonderful brain power on. You start arguments and try to act like a savoir.
Regardless, I'm over here. No sense on continuing to feed someone who cannot even bother to take the time to look something up before accusing someone of not knowing something .
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I have a small knowledge ?
if i would have a small knowledge i would never post here.
and I didn't start any argument,you've started it by yourself and now you're just blaming everybody else just to not get out guilty.
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Originally Posted by next-studio|TheKiller
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Yea,i had a working HP PC in my house untill it died.
it had a server built-in,but never knew how to access that server + it was an old pc.
Actually not only HP has server built-in,i had non-HP pc and i could run servers,somehow (no idea how,i was 9 years old and i just loved to open servers through server manager
or something like that,it was a program,nothing hard,all i had to do is open the program and it starts the server auto')
Re: Respuesta: Re: Question about VPS -
ColorHost-Kevin - 06.07.2012
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Originally Posted by xkirill
I have a small knowledge ?
if i would have a small knowledge i would never post here.
and I didn't start any argument,you've started it by yourself and now you're just blaming everybody else just to not get out guilty.
Yea,i had a working HP PC in my house untill it died.
it had a server built-in,but never knew how to access that server + it was an old pc.
Actually not only HP has server built-in,i had non-HP pc and i could run servers,somehow (no idea how,i was 9 years old and i just loved to open servers through server manager
or something like that,it was a program,nothing hard,all i had to do is open the program and it starts the server auto')
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A VPS CAN and WILL run a SAMP server perfectly fine.
In fact, there is lots of clients that say there is no issues with running it, and most people here would recommend a VPS for hosting purposes if you outgrew your shared game hosting experience.
It may be your internet connection then, cause i have also ran SAMP server on a VPS numerous of times for testing purposes, and there was NO lag or packet loss.
Re: Question about VPS -
iLinx - 06.07.2012
Any type of shared environment will always underperform a dedicated environment.
A VPS isn't designed for game hosting (you are free to verify this with the manuals of virtualization software manuals yourself), if you're looking for an optimized environment, you want game hosting.