Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules?

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Re: Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules? - saffierr - 17.03.2016

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Originally Posted by Vince

This is quite probably the dumbest thing I've read today.

That's actually even illegal... I doubt you knew that.

Re: Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules? - SickAttack - 17.03.2016

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Originally Posted by saffierr

That's actually even illegal... I doubt you knew that.

It isn't illegal. But that doesn't mean that you are immune to lawsuits.

Re: Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules? - K0P - 17.03.2016

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Originally Posted by SickAttack

Which server do you own? To remind everyone, including myself, to never play on it.

Don't be stupid and hash those passwords!

Tip: Keep your hashing algorithm a secret! With it, people can retrieve anyone's password by enforcing brute force.

Alright Alright Ive already done that...
You are the 4th one saying that

Re: Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules? - DarkLored - 17.03.2016

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Originally Posted by K0P

I keep the password in both forms (Hashed + Unhashed)
Just for account recovery,i wont misuse that data
Ill never let that data too be leaked
As its against the rules & i dont want to get involved in this kind of stuff

Why would you need to save their password if you could simply reset their password for them and force a dialog that creates a new password?

Re: Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules? - K0P - 17.03.2016

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Originally Posted by DarkLored

Why would you need to save their password if you could simply reset their password for them and force a dialog that creates a new password?

1.I "used" that for situation like if the player forgets the password he can contact me,ill recover it
2.I dont like to add security questions in my server for recovery
3.I just asked "Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules?"

Re: Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules? - SickAttack - 17.03.2016

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Originally Posted by K0P

1.I "used" that for situation like if the player forgets the password he can contact me,ill recover it
2.I dont like to add security questions in my server for recovery

There are other methods that you can use to recover someone's password. Here are a few:

Let players add an email address, which you could use to send them an email, where they can recover their password (steps may vary).
Add a command for server managers and above that sets a player's password. Send that player their new temporary password and tell them to log in as soon as possible and to change their password with /changepass.
As you said, predefined recovery questions.
And many more.

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Originally Posted by K0P

3.I just asked "Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules?"

It isn't against the rules; however, it's super clear that you don't know what you're getting yourself in to, and moreover, you don't know what in the world you are doing. You should never leave extremely sensitive information such as passwords unprotected and as is.

Hashing passwords is a must, (assuming/implying) you don't know what could go wrong. You have no idea.

If you, a friend, or anyone else gets their hands on players' passwords and thinks of exposing them to others in a way and someone reports this matter to SA-MP's administration. You are in for trouble. It will ruin your server's reputation, your reputation and your server would be removed from hosted tab as you broke the service agreement.

And please don't say that you will make sure no-one gets their hands on those passwords you didn't hash. Because anything is possible and it can happen in so many ways.

Think about this and please consider taking our advice (remove unhashed passwords and always hash/encrypt extremely sensitive information).

Re: Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules? - Vince - 18.03.2016

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Originally Posted by K0P

1.I "used" that for situation like if the player forgets the password he can contact me,ill recover it

Do you know any site or service that "recovers" your password and sends it to you in plain text? I don't. Most sites or services a) send you a new, randomly generated password which you can change after login or b) send you a link that can only be accessed once, to set a new password. Sites or services that do send passwords in plain text should be stayed far away from.

Re: Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules? - K0P - 18.03.2016

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Originally Posted by Vince

Emails are not linked by accounts in my server

Re: Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules? - Sithis - 20.03.2016

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Originally Posted by Dawny

Fairly speaking, that still doesn't mean he cannot keep unhashed passwords. Its dumb to do so but there is no policy stating so, which is a fair point for those who want to understand it in whatever way. You're not REALLY exposing passwords, tbh.
Again, if its not wrong doesn't mean you don't do it.
So, yeah. Let's just move to hashing passwords instead.

Yes, it is against the policy.

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(f) You may not violate the privacy of a player, service provider or server operator
by means of exposing passwords or identities without consent.

Exposing a password would be the case when you don't properly encrypt their password. Not only would this be against the SA:MP ToS, but also cause civil liabilities in most legal systems.

Re: Unhashed Passowords Against The Rules? - Jeroen52 - 21.03.2016

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Originally Posted by Sithis

Yes, it is against the policy.

Exposing a password would be the case when you don't properly encrypt their password. Not only would this be against the SA:MP ToS, but also cause civil liabilities in most legal systems.

I think that you mean hashing.